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FRUM: WHAT THE INSIDERS ARE SAYING [Andy Card wanted Miers fired?]
NRO ^ | October 10, 2005 | David Frum

Posted on 10/10/2005 10:42:41 AM PDT by ejdrapes

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To: quidnunc

It is worth noting that he didn't stay long. I guess Bush didn't appreciate his talent, such as it is.


81 posted on 10/10/2005 12:23:57 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I am just plain mad. And I thought that the viciousness would come only from the liberals. I certainly was wrong.


82 posted on 10/10/2005 12:26:01 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
It is worth noting that he didn't stay long. I guess Bush didn't appreciate his talent, such as it is.

Yes, he didn't stay long, in an administration renowned for its unflinching loyalty. That should tell us something.

83 posted on 10/10/2005 12:26:12 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: quidnunc

If you want my theory, it's that he was caught in a WH sting to catch leakers. When Kristol got egg all over his face, by saying that his WH sources told him that Rudy Guiliani was to be the next homeland security chief, prior to a State of the Union address, I waited to see who was the likely leaker. Several months later, Frum, one of the speechwriters and former Kristol crony at the Weakly Standard leaves the WH. Frum has been a bitter man ever since.


84 posted on 10/10/2005 12:26:42 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: RobbyS

I am not bothered by those against Miers, since I count myself among those deeply disappointed by the nomination. But I see no reason to trash her over stupid stuff or worse, to make stuff up.


85 posted on 10/10/2005 12:31:09 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("Let the wicked man forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord" Is 55:7)
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To: RobbyS

From Frum's Diary http://frum.nationalreview.com/archives/week_2005_07_03.asp

JUL. 4, 2005: DARK HORSE ...
... in the Supreme Court sweepstakes: Keep an eye on Harriet Miers, White House counsel. Miers was the first woman president of the Texas Bar Association, a co-managing partner of a 400-lawyer firm in Texas, a one-time Dallas city councilor, and by the by, the personal lawyer to one George W. Bush. She joined his staff as governor, served as staff secretary (Richard Darman's old job) in the first administration, and now oversees the White House's legal work. She is quiet, discreet, intensely loyal to Bush personally, and - though not ideologically conservative - nonetheless firmly pro-life. Plus she's a woman. Double plus - she'd be a huge surprise, and the president loves springing surprises on Washington and those pundits who think they know it all.

There are minuses too of course, beginning with that same discretion that recommended Miers as counsel: Supreme Court justices are often expected to have achieved a certain public profile before their appointment, while Miers has gone out of her way to avoid it.

But if the nomination process bogs down - or if President Bush's first choice of nominee should somehow stall or fail - then Miers might well be his back-up nominee. Scoff if you like. But if it happens, please remember that you read it here first.


86 posted on 10/10/2005 12:32:29 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: Miss Marple
You know, I am beginning to wonder if this is a vendetta borne of long-smoldering resentment of President Bush because people didn't get jobs.

Yes!

I was outside Theresa's house in Fox Chapel this morning ............... Theresa knows me and my workers quite well..................

She told me that there is a serious impetus for the Dems. to win Ohio. My, my!!

I asked her.... how will this happen?

She then clammed up.

87 posted on 10/10/2005 12:33:51 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
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To: mattdono

Judge Bork doesn't think individuals have a constitutional right to carry a gun. I'm personally quite relieved he didn't make it.


88 posted on 10/10/2005 12:35:31 PM PDT by skr (Shopping for a tagline that fits or a fitting tagline...whichever I find first.)
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To: RobFromGa

I love the Frum's line about Bush liking to spring surprises on those who think they know it all.


89 posted on 10/10/2005 12:36:29 PM PDT by babaloo
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
And so what if she likes John Grisham novels. Why does that matter one way or the other? Does he really think she should have lied? If she would lie about that, wouldn't she lie in her confirmation hearings? Who needs a liar?

I am not a Grisham-reader, having only read the one about Evil Tobacco. But isn't he a steeped-to-the-bones liberal? And arent all his novels to one degree or another steeped in liberal fantasy about the world?

90 posted on 10/10/2005 12:36:42 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: ejdrapes
Of course he thumbs his nose at us. What has he done about illegal immigration?
91 posted on 10/10/2005 12:36:45 PM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: ejdrapes
...Either the President is just plain stupid, or he's just thumbing his nose at the Conservative base. I tend to think it's the latter...he does whatever the heck he wants and doesn't care what people think, even his own supporters.

:) God knows I made a supreme effort not to use the S word but you just did. I actually think that second part of your statement is a product of the first part.... Yes.... which has deeply affected by sense of Trust! trust in his judgment... and that scares me because it has huge implications in everything he does from now on. The lack of T, could unravel his presidency but I hope not. I hope this simply a mistake in this single area.

92 posted on 10/10/2005 12:38:19 PM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: beyond the sea

Hmmm. I smell a Rat, in more ways than one.


93 posted on 10/10/2005 12:38:54 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

He may be a liberal, but I know many conservatives who read him. It's fiction, so the liberal/conservative issue is pretty much irrelevant. Drawing a conclusion from that would be like drawing a conclusion based on a favorite actor, movie, or tv show. It's just entertainment.


94 posted on 10/10/2005 12:39:28 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("Let the wicked man forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord" Is 55:7)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I think you are right. I remember that incident vividly, because Kristol was absolutely, 100% positive it would be Guiliani. When Ridge was named, he was stunned.

I didn't connect Frum to this, but I think you have hit the nail on the head.

95 posted on 10/10/2005 12:41:04 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: ejdrapes

He's just giving a best friend a patronage job. As old as time, but still wrong.


96 posted on 10/10/2005 12:41:09 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Urbane_Guerilla

The biggest readers of western novels were old fashioned cowboys. You think they didn't know the truth about their lives?


97 posted on 10/10/2005 12:42:53 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: AZLiberty

FRum is bullshit.


98 posted on 10/10/2005 12:44:35 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Pondman88
Seems to me if they wanted to get rid of her they could have easily found a nice little job elsewhere for her.

Bush loves her and would not allow her to be demoted or fired. How is that not perfectly reasonable. Bush is big time into loyalty and obedience uber alles. Miers would stand on her head and gargle peanut butter if Bush asked her. So, Bush protects her. So, Card comes up with a way to get what he wants without Bush having to feel like a best friend is getting hurt.

99 posted on 10/10/2005 12:44:39 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: RobFromGa

What?!

Do these people write or read their own copy?

Ella, please see #86.

I did remember seeing Miers' name on various lists so have been perplexed at people claiming "nobody" expected her to be named, but that Frum was one predicting it and then to act all stabbed in the back simply defies belief. Yet there it is.


100 posted on 10/10/2005 12:45:00 PM PDT by cyncooper
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