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Another Outrage from Child Protection Services
Emial | 10/17/05 | Mark I. Johnson

Posted on 10/17/2005 12:14:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

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1 posted on 10/17/2005 12:14:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie

I smell BS.


2 posted on 10/17/2005 12:15:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

I smell it too. You must be an old farm boy too.


3 posted on 10/17/2005 12:18:56 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Jim Robinson
Hi CCC, could you please flag Santa Clara County FReepers?

This story is an outrage. Because it is involves a child, the proceedings are conducted in secret. There is no accountability for the outcome on the part of CPS. This man is as dedicated a parent as I have met. It is my request that you do what you can to show up for a needed FReep.

4 posted on 10/17/2005 12:19:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: AppyPappy
In what respect?
5 posted on 10/17/2005 12:19:53 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Not enough information here. No specifics about the boy's "condition."

Without additional information, I can draw no conclusions from this.

Since it arrived, uncorroborated, in email, it should be taken with a large, heaping teaspoon of salt.


6 posted on 10/17/2005 12:19:58 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Carry_Okie

So you know this family personally? How about supplying some additional information about the situation. There's so little actual information in that email.


7 posted on 10/17/2005 12:22:08 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Carry_Okie

I'm suspicious of this. Too dramatic, and I sense the desire for attention.


8 posted on 10/17/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: MineralMan
Not enough information here. No specifics about the boy's "condition."

The child suffers from two factors: fetal alcohol syndrome and cocaine abuse by his natural mother and a diagnosis of Reactive Attachment Disorder. He has problems.

He is under the guidance of a therapist familiar with such cases. She has not been allowed to testify. The family belongs to support groups of both RAD kids and homeschoolers. Both groups showed up (about thirty people) for this hearing.

9 posted on 10/17/2005 12:23:41 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: MineralMan
So you know this family personally?

I know Mark personally. I have not met Christopher.

How about supplying some additional information about the situation. There's so little actual information in that email.

The problem is that the facts of the case are confidential. There is much that I am not at liberty to divulge.

10 posted on 10/17/2005 12:26:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

F#$%ING CPS IS USELESS

DURIG MY DIVORCE 14 REPORTS WERE FILED AGAINST MY EX-WIFE FOR CHILD ABUSE BY POLICE, NEIGHBORS, THE HOSPITAL WHERE ME DAUGHTER HAD TO GO AFTER A WEEKEND WITH HER MOTHER - AND THEY DID *NOTHING*

BUT ONE COMPLAINT FROM MY EX AGAINST ME (AND NOTHING MORE THAN HER WORD) THAT I HAD SPANKED MY DAUGHTER AND THEY WANTED TO OVERTURN A TEMPORARY RULING AND TAKE MY CHILDREN AWAY FROM ME AND GIVE THEM BACK TO HER (A DIAGNOSED PSYCHOPATH WITH A LIFELONG HISTORY OF CHILD ABUSE) "UNTIL THEY COMPLETED THEIR INESTIGATION"



11 posted on 10/17/2005 12:27:03 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: AppyPappy
Child Protective Services in many states does anything but protect children. Often they are a "tool" in a divorce used to obtain a more favorable status for one party in the divorce. They are "too busy" to do regularly monitor children in homes where they know abuse has happened, because they are either (i) acting as agents for some divorce attorney; or (ii) trying to remove children from homes that function outside their liberal, non-Christian philosophy (and we are not speaking of snake worshipers here, just ordinary everyday average churchgoers).
12 posted on 10/17/2005 12:27:14 PM PDT by Roses0508 (Democracy does not guarantee equality of conditions - it only guarantees equality of opportunity.)
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To: Mr. K
Yup, that's the way it works all right: You are at the mercy of the whim of a case worker.
13 posted on 10/17/2005 12:29:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

"The problem is that the facts of the case are confidential. There is much that I am not at liberty to divulge."

Ok. This sends up a red flag for me. Sure, the government may not be allowed to give out confidential info, but that doesn't mean the family, or you with their permission, couldn't give out whatever information that they wanted that would lend support to their case.


14 posted on 10/17/2005 12:30:06 PM PDT by LegionofDorkness (A Proud South Park Conservative)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

homeschool ping


15 posted on 10/17/2005 12:30:23 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Carry_Okie

"The problem is that the facts of the case are confidential. There is much that I am not at liberty to divulge.
"

OK, then.


16 posted on 10/17/2005 12:32:01 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: American Quilter
I have met Mark Johnson through our congregation. I know that he and his family have made a significant commitment to their children and their community, having adopted a child suffering from both fetal alcohol and cocaine abuse in-utero. My wife once ran the Newborn Nursery at Alexian Brothers Hospital. We know that it takes a special kind of person to care for such children.

It is thus no surprise that the adopted child, Christopher, presents significant parenting challenges requiring a different style of parenting than the other two children in the family. The public schools sent him to a shrink where he was diagnosed ADHD and put on Ritalin. The boy's response prompted them to school their children at home and get him other help. I have met the therapist. NOBODY makes a significant commitment like that without the intent to do whatever is necessary to help him flourish, nor have they chosen to do so in isolation. The family has sought professional help for him and associated with a home education support group.

That group showed up for his hearing. There were thirty people there.

It was that difference in parenting that led a first time baby sitter, a minor, who had never even met the child in question (she sat the Johnson's two younger children only), to conclude on the condition of his room that such entirely-warranted differential treatment constitutes child-abuse! She lacked any contextual information from the parents or anyone else to make such a conclusion. It is my understanding that the police investigated and could find none.

17 posted on 10/17/2005 12:32:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

For me, the sniff test failed when their first call was to the Home School Defense group.

Why was that? There was an allegation of child abuse, and they get right on the horn with HSLDA?


18 posted on 10/17/2005 12:35:31 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

You think getting a lawyer when someone threatens to take your children is a bad thing?


19 posted on 10/17/2005 12:36:30 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: AppyPappy

There is a long history of FR supporting wack-jobs so long as they are Christians. Remember the Chastain's, who smacked their kids around on their bus? And then there was the nurse in Monaco who burned down his master's house.


20 posted on 10/17/2005 12:39:41 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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