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To: DoctorRansom

For once, the ACLU is on the side of right and justice. Well, even a broken clock is correct twice a day...


2 posted on 10/20/2005 3:02:56 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: orionblamblam
Hello to a voice from the recent past. I believe discussion died on a previous thread in which the original subject (The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe) underwent much change over very little time. However, let me restate something here, just in case:



Argument: some mutations are beneficial
from Refuting Evolution 2 by Dr. Jonathan Sarfati
(a [still-unanswered] rebuttal to Scientific American's July 2002 article "15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense")


Might want to read that one, for continuing study if nothing else. Many of these arguments supporting mutation-driven evolution were already dealt with decades ago, even before other scientists -- in the ID and Biblical creation movements -- came up with information theory.

To reiterate:
1. No serious scientist, evolutionary or creationist, in this century, has invoked supernatural explanations for present-day natural laws. To use the "well if you're going to allow any kind of miracles, you can't do science," canard is misleading (and again, completely blind to evolutionary "miracles" that are impossible).
2. Particles-to-people evolution requires immense amounts of new, amazingly complex information to arise out of nothing. This process has never been observed and is statistically improbable. The "proofs" cited are only examples of already-existing information being modified or combined.

Good discussion, though. It's great stuff to study, from any side. But for more, I do recommend an open-minded read-through of the article.




Another reiteration: ID is very different from Biblical creation.


Dr. Ransom
FaithFusion.net
Speaking only for those with ears to hear

4 posted on 10/20/2005 3:13:16 PM PDT by DoctorRansom ("Alert and in first-class fighting trim")
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To: orionblamblam
Well, even a broken clock is correct twice a day...

You read my mind.

I hate the ACLU. And I think they deliberately target Christians for bogus issues, such as the small cross they forced the city of Edmond Oklahoma to remove from their city seal. My mother was the one who suggested they put that cross in the seal at a committee meeting that designed it decades ago. Her reasoning was that the churches were a big part of city culture when it was founded, and she was correct.

But on the evolution issue, the ACLU on the side of reality and against ignorance. Yeah. Stopped clock.

13 posted on 10/20/2005 5:46:29 PM PDT by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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