Posted on 10/27/2005 5:54:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
just breaking!!!!!!!!
The 9 justices would have to be staggered over that 12 years into classes. One justice in the first off year election of a presidential term and two at the 3 year off term would be 3 every 4 years for 9 in 12 years wouldn't it?
If they are elected, I've considered the same pattern for elections, but I've wondered if the candidates shouldn't be regional. Northeast, southeast, northeast central, southeast central, northwest central, southwest central, northwest, southwest, Alaska&Islands. One could even consider regional elections rather than national elections.
These are all just thoughts, of course.
I have a good friend who is in a narrowly held Republican legislature in the Midwest. This public fight has caused division in the local parties, and has caused a loss of confidence.
It is quite possible that the results of this fight will be the loss of legislatures in mmany states...effecting powerless Republican governors (like here in Indiana). If we can't overcome this, it will be a major disaster for conservatives, because without effective legislatures and governors, we lose the local appeal which translates into grassroots workers and votes!
I am not going to desert the party, and will support whomever the President nominates for SC. I also will support whoever is the 2008 nominee, because I think democrat governance is dangerous to my grandchildren.
But will I trust a lot of these people again? No. I will view them as allies akin to the German-Soviet alliance. I will always think they are waiting for an opportunity to stab the party in the back.
"They will stay home, like right wingers did when Dole ran. That is what will happen. I've been waiting a long time to pay that back."
Oh, puh-LEEZE, like you RINOs don't pay us back every time a budget bill comes up or a conservative nominee is floated. You people are laughable in your 'threats.' As if having you around pretending to be 'conservatives' of any hue isn't already damaging enough for the GOP's chances nationally.
At least now you're out of the closet calling the people who didn't approve of the stealth nominations 'right wingers,' which you obviously disapprove of. If you want a party without right wingers, the Democrats would be happy to have you, as long as you can foam at the mouth and holler insults like Howard Dean, I'm sure. And plenty of RINOs around here sure did that in responding to folks around here who simply brought forward Miers' own writings. Now, doing something so sensible that was 'vicious' and 'insulting,' according to you hacks. Sounds like the DU shoe fits pretty well for y'all.
The woman didn't get where she is by being an idiot. I think she should have had a chance to speak for herself. People have put up all sorts of fragments of her writings or speeches, culled things from many years ago, etc. If she was an embarrassment, I'm sure she would have been quietly told to withdraw at that time, and because she seems to be very loyal to Bush, I'm sure she would have done so.
I still will never understand why people didn't want to hear her out. I will also never understand the venom that went into some of these posts, where people on the one hand called her a lesbian while others decided that she had had an abortion and yet others spent their time criticizing her make-up.
There is nothing kool-aid there. My position is that Roberts is as far right as democrats will vote for. There's nothing really hard to understand about that. They have great party discipline and seem to be able to enforce it.
You don't like my take, and I don't care.
A part of the party exerted itself, you don't like how that transpired. I can't help you there, and you don't add much of substance to the conversation, outside your you don't get this, you're going to pay, etc.
Listen, we probably don't share the same values, no biggie. I personally wish you no harm, but I fervently hope that your view, as I have surmised it from your post to me, does not prevail.
That's not a crime nor a blunder, no matter your protestations to the opposite.
>>Ate one of our own again?<<
No, got rid of an unqualified nominee.
Ohio, stop whining. If you start something surely you must finish it. No matter how many you engage with..and you have me intrigued about 'pencil pushers' and 'emotional control'.... But I'd much rather have a trusted fellow 'elder' Freeper. You WERE the one who surmised I was young, and you know, I just want to learn.. Please???????????? Won't you please explain your comment.. Afterall, you've taken all this time and space to dodge the question.. wouldn't it be easier to just explain it and be done? :) Morning in America!!!
Leaf, I don't think so.. I don't have enough tinfoil to make that theory work.
I hear you. But there is an overarching political process that played with the Miers nomination in a way that does not come into play with the others. The others have some amunt of background that admits a debate on their merits. Details of those debates are present in the Congressional Record.
Plus...don't you think it would be been interesting, and possible enlightening to find out who would have voted for her and those who would have had the integrity to NOT fall into party line..and vote against her?
I think the reason given for pulling the nomination, and the likely reason for withholding advise & consent would have coincided for many Senators. To wit, lack of information or insight into the nominee's judicial philosophy - Senator's are wise to not play "this much" roulette with what should be a reasoned decision.
Given a nomination of a certain degree of stealth, I would like to hear the Senators go on record as to their stance on that matter of principle - but I prefer that the issue of "stealth" not be introduced by the President in the first place.
It just irks the crap out of me and makes me want to throw something at her!
But you may not understand that Reagan was a good politician and a compromiser to move the ball forward.
Ann Coulter, Krystal and Frum are over zealous idiots who believe they can do whatever with no cost in political capital, the life's blood of politics.
Well, they have spent all of GWB's and now will see the results, but they will never blame themselves for what they did.
Quack,quack......lame duck, in the first year of the second term.
look to see Bush working hard on his legacy now. It is all he has left. I see much foreign travel in his future.
Reagan had to do the same thing because of Iran Contra. So he is in good company, but in both instances, Krystal and company and their predecessors were/are standing on presidents chest as they try to breathe. Riding the dead horse, as it were.
They brought us Clinton. They will bring another.
It's what they are good at. Anybody got eight years? Anybody? How bout you Rush! You said this would all be good for the party!
Is it? Really? (I did not think so)
He could have stopped at hero and thanked John for his support. Instead, he went on.
My condolences, Mr. President. You deserved better flanking cover.
Question answered with a question......
Tell me , do you blame the driver of the other car after you have run him off the road?
In any case, I'm not yet convinced that Miers' conservative Christianity wasn't a part of the distaste some powerful persons had for her. I'll keep my eyes on that one to see that I hopefully am wrong.
I still think she should have been allowed to speak for herself.
Finally, I'm still not sure that this whole appointment wasn't some strategery that either backfired terribly or is working brilliantly. Unfortunately, those kind of memoirs get written years after a president is gone, so I'll probably never get to read about it.
On the other hand, I'll be with the Lord.
I suspect that if your kids acted like this, you'd have a problem with it. Pathetic.
From the moment she was nominated, the Bush Adminstration planned the Meirs withdrawl to coincide with the CIA leak indictments.
The President hopes to suck the oxygen out of the air and divert and blunt the MSM drumbeat over the pending CIA indictments and the attempts to tarnish the Bush White House. The new nomination process now takes the lead headline for the next number of news cycles. Bush again is one step ahead of the leftwing gang in DC. Watch him control the news flow with the new nomination process.
... typical...
Answer the question, then I'll answer your's.
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