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Cunningham convicted [of shooting man who raped her daughter]
Knoxville News Sentinel ^ | 10/28/5 | ROBERT WILSON

Posted on 10/28/2005 10:09:54 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: Max in Utah

Ah, I didn't realize there was already an admission of guilt. Never mind.


41 posted on 10/28/2005 10:51:06 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: wagglebee

She should get a medal for shooting an unarmed person? I don't know what the truth of the incident was but this guy was innocent in the eyes of the law and she decided to brutally kill him.

What's to stop anyone else committing murder and making up some story of abuse or rape to cover up for the crime. You can either be on the side of law and order or on the side of ciminality. We can't allow people to take the law into their own hands.


42 posted on 10/28/2005 10:51:51 AM PDT by anthony_a_c_b
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To: SmithL

If she'd been Tawara Brawley's mother, had believed her lies and gone and gunned someone down ... this thread would be very different in tone. We only have the mother's word that the guy "admitted it". I just don't know enough to be completely comfortable we're on the right side here.


43 posted on 10/28/2005 10:53:10 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Fishing-guy

That's impossible! 14 yr old girls always tell the truth. Their private testament to their family is more incontavertable than DNA evidence.


P.S. If you don't know it's sarcasm, head back to DU


44 posted on 10/28/2005 10:54:08 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: SmithL
If she was right about the fellow being the rapist, she deserves to get a sentance of "time served" plus a medal.
45 posted on 10/28/2005 10:54:13 AM PDT by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

"and 5 hours of community service."

Could that involve giving her a .45 and a list of names?


46 posted on 10/28/2005 10:54:49 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
Could that involve giving her a .45 and a list of names?

OK, I laughed :0)

47 posted on 10/28/2005 10:56:23 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: bk1000

Are you sure that it wasn't a mistrial?


48 posted on 10/28/2005 10:57:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: netmilsmom
The daughter who is now 14 told her mom that this guy had raped her. The mom confronted the guy at work, he admitted it and said there was nothing she could do about it. In a smarmy fashion.

If there was a witness to this, then she shouldn't have been prosecuted. It's justifiable homicide. Here in Texas, we'd say the guy "needed killin".

49 posted on 10/28/2005 10:57:19 AM PDT by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: Fishing-guy
Ah, I didn't realize there was already an admission of guilt. Never mind.

Do we really know that? Or did Ms. Cunningham simply say he said it, after the fact? Him being dead, there may be nobody around to corroborate.

50 posted on 10/28/2005 10:57:28 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SmithL

Good shooting, Kimmy!


51 posted on 10/28/2005 10:58:48 AM PDT by TFMcGuire
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To: SmithL

Good shooting, Kimmy!

:)


52 posted on 10/28/2005 10:59:30 AM PDT by TFMcGuire
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To: SmithL

This is clearly a case where Jury Nullification is justified. Of course, don't expect anyone sitting on a jury to ever be informed of what that concept is by anyone on the legal or judicial profession... And don't expect to be ever sitting on a Jury if you know what it is either.


53 posted on 10/28/2005 10:59:43 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: GrandEagle; djf

Guys, it isn't charging her with different crimes until one sticks. Its the same crime. The first jury came back and said "we dunno" if she is guilty or not. So, you have got to find a jury that can make a decision.

You may not like it in this situation, that's fine. But it has long been the law, and its hardly unusual.

patent


54 posted on 10/28/2005 11:00:03 AM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: When do we get liberated?
Maybe I was sarcastically sarcastic. LOL.

But, seriously (really), the article does not have enough information for one to make a judgment.
55 posted on 10/28/2005 11:00:22 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: zeugma

Agreed,

He needed a killin' works here in GA too.


56 posted on 10/28/2005 11:00:56 AM PDT by najida (I've found the last dragon, now I need to figure out what to do with him.)
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To: djf
In many cases where a defendant is charged with an offense, either or both sides may request the jury be instructed on a lesser-included offense. Usually, these lesser charges either have a lower culpable mental state (reckless vs. intentional), or have one less fact requirement (such as a deadly weapon).

Voluntary manslaughter is a more unusual lesser offense because it requires proof of sudden passion on the part of the defendant which excuses his or her culpable mental state. States vary on whether the defendant has the burden to prove sudden passion or whether the State has the burden to prove lack of sudden passion.

Double jeopardy does not come into play because the original jury neither convicted nor acquitted the defendant on the lesser offense of manslaughter. Since the jury did acquit the defendant on the greater charge of murder, the State could only re-try the defendant for the lesser offense.

57 posted on 10/28/2005 11:00:56 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: zeugma
If there was a witness to this, then she shouldn't have been prosecuted. It's justifiable homicide.

Well, no it's not "justifiable homicide." It's just plain old criminal homicide. If the guy really did do it, I'm not shedding any tears over him. But Ms. Cunningham (nor anybody else) is allowed to simply kill those whom they think "need killin'".

58 posted on 10/28/2005 11:01:29 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: netmilsmom

>>>>He would be proud to go to jail for it too.

I think the same. Hurt one of mine and I'll have no hesitation to do the time. A parent has to defend his children, its part of the job.

patent


59 posted on 10/28/2005 11:02:11 AM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: anthony_a_c_b
Obviously the original jury felt somewhat the same way, they found her not guilty of first degree murder and were hung on manslaughter. It would seem to me that this could only have happened if they were presented with fairly compelling evidence that this man was guilty of the rapes.

However, I do agree that there is definitely a need to stay away from vigilante justice.

60 posted on 10/28/2005 11:02:49 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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