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Births to Unmarried U.S. Women Set Record
Yahoo!News ^ | October 28, 2005 | RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

Posted on 10/28/2005 11:58:41 AM PDT by mlc9852

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To: John Robertson

I have a co-worker who has two children from two different fathers, neither of which care to see their kids, nor pay a dime for them.

The girl is in her early 20's and is already on many forms of state assistance to help pay for her poor choices. Housing assistance, free medical, free dental, food stamps, free day care, the works.

She's obviously able to work, since she's working here, but she only wants to work part-time. See, if she works ful time then she makes too much money, and will lose much of her assistance.

We were talking earlier this week about medical insurance, and I was talking about how expensive mine is. $420 a month, plus a $500 deductible per person, per year. She starts bragging about her "plan", saying that she gets everything free and "it dont' cost me nothin' - it's great!"

I simply said, "you're welcome" and walked out of the room.

Welfare, single parenting, one-night hook-ups that result in kids were once shameful things that used to carry a stigma. No longer. Now they're proud of how well they're screwing the system to get everything for free.

Makes me sick, to be perfectly honest.


41 posted on 10/28/2005 12:13:38 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Heart of my own heart, whatever befall")
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To: mlc9852

That's something to be real proud of.


42 posted on 10/28/2005 12:13:46 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: mlc9852
Children have rights too. This is not just about consenting adults. Parents have an obligation to their children that results from bringing their child into the world. Parents do not have the right to abandon their children. This is ultimately a human rights issue.
43 posted on 10/28/2005 12:14:14 PM PDT by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: mlc9852

Formal marriage is more or less irrelevant in Scandinavia and elsewhere in North-Western Europe as a social arrangement these days. This does not mean that folks don't live in monogamous relationships. It's just that formal marriage, a formalization of a human relationship, is not anymore seen as the only possible indicator of a long-term commitment between a man and woman.


44 posted on 10/28/2005 12:14:15 PM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: MineralMan

Oh, I think marriage is extremely important, especially if you want children. But being a realist, I see it becoming less and less important to the younger generation. So many children have siblings they don't even know. I don't expect it to get better any time soon.


45 posted on 10/28/2005 12:15:30 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: nikola
And your employer is OK with that? Doesn't that tell them something about the person he is?

Our company is self-insured for health insurance, so we have paid for two of those babies. Yes, he got two women in the office pregnant.

46 posted on 10/28/2005 12:16:11 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: American Quilter

Thanks. Appreciate.


47 posted on 10/28/2005 12:16:19 PM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

You summed it up well. Doesn't bode well for the future of the US.


48 posted on 10/28/2005 12:18:35 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

"Oh, I think marriage is extremely important, especially if you want children. But being a realist, I see it becoming less and less important to the younger generation. So many children have siblings they don't even know. I don't expect it to get better any time soon."

I guess it all depends, but I sure seem to be buying lots of wedding presents for nieces and nephews these days. Seems like there's a wedding every other week in my family and my wife's family. And the ones that are already married? Man, they're making babies at a frightening rate.

This is going to adversely affect my bank balance, I'm sure. As a childless uncle and aunt, my wife and I...well let's just say there are expectations of us.

Love those kids!


49 posted on 10/28/2005 12:18:38 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: John Robertson; T'wit; Eurotwit
Agree...Pinging the twit (Candice Bergen) on "Murphy Brown"

Please explain, WHY You (and your TV staff) did this?..in 1991..the glorification of B@st@rds / S!uts...Hmmm?

w/ apologies to twit, eurotwit

50 posted on 10/28/2005 12:18:58 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Zack Nguyen

"Well said. While single parents deserve our help through acts of kindness and charity as needed, it is not the best situation and we should never pretend that it is."

That's the dilemma, for us. We are charitable, and help as we can...even as we disapprove of the dynamics that create this situation. And, as we help, we help this situation get even more dominant.


51 posted on 10/28/2005 12:19:03 PM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: mlc9852

The disintegration continues.

It doesn't matter who holds the White House/Congress.

The TV toxic waste sewer continues to spew and pollute the minds and souls of the masses.


52 posted on 10/28/2005 12:20:58 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

"We were talking earlier this week about medical insurance, and I was talking about how expensive mine is. $420 a month, plus a $500 deductible per person, per year. She starts bragging about her "plan", saying that she gets everything free and "it dont' cost me nothin' - it's great!" I simply said, "you're welcome" and walked out of the room."

And I'm sure she didn't get it at all.

It's the inexorable advance of socialism, and I really don't see how we can stop it.

By the way, that irresponsible woman you work with? She's probably never done anything responsible in her life. But watch her get "educated," and register to vote, and vote for Hillary in 2008.


53 posted on 10/28/2005 12:21:13 PM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: mlc9852

they were never "wrong" --that was their whole intent from the beginning! the feminist movement from the 60's = abolition of the family unit-- a communist goal.

Communist Goals (1963 congressional record)
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."


54 posted on 10/28/2005 12:21:48 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Truthsayer20

"Formal marriage is more or less irrelevant in Scandinavia and elsewhere in North-Western Europe as a social arrangement these days. This does not mean that folks don't live in monogamous relationships. It's just that formal marriage, a formalization of a human relationship, is not anymore seen as the only possible indicator of a long-term commitment between a man and woman."

The way you've written your post suggests that you approve, or at any rate don't disapprove.

But you may be interested in the results of a long-term study I've just completed on this subject:

Having children out of wedlock is a very bad thing.


55 posted on 10/28/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Looks like they're well on their way to accomplishing their goals. And our public schools are all too happy to step up and help.


56 posted on 10/28/2005 12:24:14 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Remember, the ideal family structure has changed from mother-father-child to mother-bureaucrat-child.


57 posted on 10/28/2005 12:25:51 PM PDT by TonyXL
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To: AdamSelene235
Hi AdamSelene235-

Marriage is an institution that appears to have "run its course" in terms of utility for men. I see many guys of marrying age in my office who avoid it like the plague because there are many pitfalls and very few advantages.

~ Blue Jays ~

58 posted on 10/28/2005 12:27:28 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

I think marriage is more beneficial to men than women. Most women I know who are divorced and not young have no intention of getting married again. Just no benefit.


59 posted on 10/28/2005 12:28:33 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Of course, the whole high divorce rate is a scam. If you look at the number of people whom marry once and stay married, it is higher than 50%.

Those who marry and divorce and marry and divorce and marry and divorce skew the statistic

Lies, damned lies, and statistics


60 posted on 10/28/2005 12:29:05 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Not too worry - we'll all be united again under the next Clinton presidency!!)
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