Posted on 11/03/2005 4:51:21 PM PST by Libloather
If you want 20 million more, then put up with it. Teaching is all about repitition. That is, repeating the message over and over is an excellent educational strategy. You see...well, you know what I mean.
Am I jumping into the "tinfoil" crowd by wondering aloud at the possiblity that "folks smarter than me" have figured out that changes for the CIA/State/Etc can only come from outside? That this entire episode will result in bypassing the "normal" route for change (that could take years if ever completed) and rip the cancer out through maximum exposure in an unconventional manner?
So there would be at least one written peice of documentation, his expense report. Correct? He has said (and I have the quote somewhere) he was reimbursed for expenses by the CIA.
Would the expense report be the only classified item from this trip or is there a way to obtain it?
bttt
The Wretch that is Patrick Fitgerald (song parody)
Might be worth a look :)
When asked by the CIA to investigate the possible exchange of 500 tons of Niger-mined uranium into Iraqi hands, Mr. Wilson said it was his vast experience in dealing with both West African and Iraqi issues that recommended him for the job -- not his wife, as government documents have claimed. [Probably half-vast experience!].
He had "enormous credibility" with Niger's leaders; "I had met their families, I had kissed their babies," he said. It was also his experience that led him to conclude there was "nothing to the story" of an African uranium exchange
http://news.newspress.com/topsports/110105wilson.htm
Mr. Wilson, a 1972 graduate of UCSB, where he once said he majored in "history, volleyball and surfing," said the indictment and two-year investigation support what he has said all along.
Mr. Wilson's confrontation with the administration over the past two years is a far cry from his time at UCSB, where he said he kept a "gentleman's C average."
http://news.newspress.com/toplocal/102905wilson.htm?now=76415&tref=1
OK, that's enough investigation. Send this clown over to Barnum & Bailey.
Porter J. Goss was nominated by Bush for CIA Director and assumed duties in April of 05. Goss, a republican of course, was formerly Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
It is difficult to think that Goss, as Director, would not be quite interested in the genesis and promulgation of the Palme-Wilson-CIA conspiracy - and it is a criminal conspiracy, having the effect of putting the security of our nation directly at risk.
I didn't turn Rush on until he started this great summary of what happen and will probably happen.
One of the biggest myths is that a CIA cover is blown when the column is published, which is like saying you are not dead until your obituary is in the Washington Post. If many in the Washington press corp knew Plame was a CIA official, that in itself meant her cover was blown. The first thing a defense lawyer is going to do is put Plame and the CIA employees in her department on trial and ask if they were ever the source of a newspaper story about WMD. If so, it will support Liddy's argument that he was in fact on the receiving end and that many reporters did know. And the defense will also show all the CIA leaks in the media and ask how exactly did the reporters find these CIA employees to use as a source?
Sure they did! Another thing...how did Wilson get the job to go to Niger and what were his qualifications? He wasn't working for the CIA...so I want him on a witness stand telling a prosecutor how he got the job in the first place. Seems to me his travel orders/plans could easily be traced. Did he, in fact, ever even go to Niger?
So many questions...all avoided by Fitz, in an effort to bring down Rove instead.
I have read that CIA referrals to Justice are pretty commonplace -- that Justice is to determine whether a crime has been committed. But someone asked (I forget where I saw it) who let the press know about this particular referral?
Yeah, way too convenient.
Here is my theory.
Miller and Libby had the same source within the CIA that was opposed to what the Plame/Wilson cabal was up to.
Libby and Miller are protecting that source.
Fitz gave up trying to ferret that source out and has no interest in going after the perps on the other side.
The Bush Admin is hestitant to take on the Plame/Wilson cabal directly for fear of having the MSM attack such as retribution.
But Goss will quietly uproot them over the next three years. That's how such things are normally handled when it comes to spooks - quietly, behind the scenes - and IMO Hoagland's column in the Wash Post yesterday was something of a green light to do such. The Plame/Wilson cabal broke that unwritten rule, and will eventually pay for it. But I doubt we'll ever have the satisfaction of finding out how.
Joe Wilson has been quoted as saying the SP called him after Rove's last appearance before the Grand Jury. He did not reveal the purpose of the call. Ftiz began what was seen as a last minute blitz in Joe's neighborhood to learn what neighborhoods knew about Valerie's employment. He was also reported to have gone to Luskin's office. As many legal minds have pointed out, if Fitz had the goods on Rove, Luskin would be in Fitzgerald's office.
Background and historical facts aside, so much of the actions of Fitzgerald before the 28th do not make sense.
Why would he call Wilson if Rove's testimony focused on Rove's conversations with Cooper?
IIRC, Rove requested the last appearance to correct the record regarding his testimony regarding Cooper. So why the need to call Joe? Did Joe make a remark to someone regarding this whole affair and that remark was conveyed to Rove?
Perhaps at church? I read yesterday that Wilson and Rove attend the same church. In the DC area, I would think most churches are attended by some of the movers and shakers in DC. If Rove and Wilson did indeed atttend the same church, they must have many mutual friends from that church. Was it common knowledge at the church that Valerie was CIA? Their wives may have had mutual friends. Valerie is also involved in a support group for Post-Partum Depression. Was something revealed in group?
Maybe Fitzgerald's decision to indict Rove was thwarted by information given to Rove. Information which would expose Wilson and his wife in a big way. Information which Rove may not have wanted to reveal unless necesary; a promise to a friend for example. Luskin may have been aware of something like this but chose to save it until he knew the intentions of Fitzgerald.
I don't know the answers to any of these questions. Just chewing the fat, so to speak.
I like your theory :). I think the rats were highly PO'ed that Porter Goss was appointed to run the CIA, too. For some reason, they fear him, just as they fear Bolton in the UN job.
The rats have something major to hide. It is true...we may never know all that is going on behind the scenes in Spookville.
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