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Enforcement of Internet Gambling Laws Gains Steam
Family.org ^ | November 3, 2005 | Bill Wilson

Posted on 11/03/2005 10:28:14 PM PST by JTN

Americans are ignoring laws prohibiting online gambling so Congress is moving to create a bigger hammer. Gambling on the internet is illegal and booming thanks to the apathy of a lot of Americans. Congress is considering the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2005 to stem the tide. The proposal does not change current law but gives law enforcement more clout in dealing with illegal gambling on U-S computers. Tom McClusky of the Family Research Council.

"A lot of time the federal government's hands are tied. This allows both credit card companies and the Treasury Department to work hand in hand in trying to shut down some of these sites."

McClusky says the legislation will not solve the problem, but it is a good first step.

"The one thing about internet gambling, the FBI, the Treasury Department has found that a lot of the funding goes to some pretty unscrupulous things, anything from pornography sites to terrorism. So if this helps in that fight that is certainly a good thing."

Focus on the Family's Chad Hills says unless there is a crackdown, any home with a computer is a potential casino.

"We're going to have a casino in every living room where, at least most living rooms in America, where there are computers. And with this internet savvy generation of kids, you can bet it won't be long before they figure out a way to get on there and start gambling as well."

The legislation calls on the Treasury Department to draft regulations that must be followed by financial institutions. For example, credit card companies would be prohibited from approving internet gambling transactions. The legislation has the endorsement of the National Football League. It wants to stop online gambling on professional football games.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gambling; gaming
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To: adamsjas

Been to Casinos in Freeport Bahamas a couple of times when I was U.S.C.G...It was fun but I could see that gambling would be my ruination if I lived in place like Vegas.
I have backed down from playing state lottery.
do a couple of bucks here and there vice my former maybe 20 bucks a week.
Gotta say that that the game that has been kindest to me was BINGO....won 5 grand at the old AURORA BINGO(HOME OF THE LUCKY DOG)...in SEATTLE
Bingo I can deal with.
And got to get out to MUCKLESHOOT BINGO one of these days to see if BINGO GODDESS wil again smile upon me.
Rather my few bucks go to TRIBAL CASINO/BINGO HALL than to the RUSSIAN MAFIA.


21 posted on 11/04/2005 12:38:15 AM PST by antmanbee
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To: JTN

You nailed it...

Party Poker is probably the biggest site and it is a money machine...no cheating necessary.

Cheating would just risk the neck of the goose that lays golden eggs.


22 posted on 11/04/2005 12:39:51 AM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: JTN
If a gaming website were ever caught cheating then the players would leave in hordes and the company would quickly go broke. And then there is the potential legal liability.

Legal liability because they offered a crooked version of what is already illegal? Good luck with that line of argument. Kind of like suing the hooker that gave you the clap!

But, with no inspection, no regulation, how would anyone ever find out they are cheating?

That's why I say, legalize it, tax it , and regulate it so those who want to can gamble as safely as in Vegas.

23 posted on 11/04/2005 1:26:48 AM PST by adamsjas
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To: adamsjas
Legal liability because they offered a crooked version of what is already illegal? Good luck with that line of argument.

It's only illegal in the US. As I said, the major gambling websites are based in foreign countries. If (astronomical if) the websites were cheating, then customers in the US might be SOL, but the internet is global and they would be opening themselves up to lawsuits from all over the world. Not to mention criminal prosecution.

24 posted on 11/04/2005 1:34:36 AM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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To: adamsjas
But, with no inspection, no regulation, how would anyone ever find out they are cheating?

Whistleblowers would be one way. The slightest suspicion of cheating would crush these companies. Why take the risk?

25 posted on 11/04/2005 1:37:23 AM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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To: JTN

The government just hates competition.


26 posted on 11/04/2005 2:26:26 AM PST by Glenn (What I've dared, I've willed; and what I've willed, I'll do!)
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To: JTN

"A lot of time the federal government's hands are tied." - Tom McClusky, Family Research Council.

"Courage is lacking in world leaders many times today." - Harriet Miers.

Is McClusky a proud graduate of the Harriet Miers School of English Composition? ;-)


27 posted on 11/04/2005 3:22:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: freepatriot32

Presidents Gore and Kerry would likely agree with you.


28 posted on 11/04/2005 4:25:26 AM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: TN4Liberty
Presidents Gore and Kerry would likely agree with you.

No way and not a supportable argument. The only thing a President Gore or Kerry would want is for the Government to be the ones making profit on alcohol, drugs, and gambling. In NH the state runs the sales of liquor and they have a huge exit off the highway were you can stop in and stock up. As I drive by I often wonder how long it will be before the place is turned into a Gov't sanctioned casino and house of prostitution - all raising money "for the children". Now I have no problem with people making a buck and there's plenty of things for sale out there that I decide to pass by ON MY OWN. I do have a problem with the Gov't enforcing a monopoly and making the same thing they are doing illegal for private citizens to do.

29 posted on 11/04/2005 5:32:54 AM PST by rhombus
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To: JTN
This press release would have you believe that this is because "the federal government's hands are tied", but there may be another reason - the World Trade Organisation has told the U.S. government that its laws against internet gaming are in violation of WTO rules. So the laws themselves may be illegal.

Only if you believe that WTO is a controlling legal authority.

A lot of FReepers do not recognize it as having any standing.
30 posted on 11/04/2005 5:40:40 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: adamsjas
How do you know how many of those players are bots, or shills working for the house, for whom the deck is "shuffeled" (sic.) in that "just so" sort of way.

The reason we can assume this is that there is no evidence of it. Simple as that.

Andrew

31 posted on 11/04/2005 6:09:46 AM PST by Andy Ross (A Scot in Trondheim)
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To: freepatriot32

Ya ever notice how any acitivity the gov't doesn't approve of has suddenly become a source of terrorism funding?


32 posted on 11/04/2005 6:14:51 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

oh yeah ive been noticing that for years i really love the marijuana supports terrorism the best though becasue i cant for the life of me figure out how these terrorists are growing all that weed in the arid deserts of the middle east.


33 posted on 11/04/2005 10:43:03 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: rhombus
No way and not a supportable argument.

I wasn't saying Gore/Kerry would agree with you on policy. I am saying that they would agree that more conservatives should vote for Libertarian candidates (The "President Gore and Kerry" was the hint.)

34 posted on 11/05/2005 10:03:53 AM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: TN4Liberty
I wasn't saying Gore/Kerry would agree with you on policy. I am saying that they would agree that more conservatives should vote for Libertarian candidates (The "President Gore and Kerry" was the hint.)

Ok got it - don't you just love bulletin boards? For a while I was starting to worry about conservatives having another Ross Perot "Reformed Party" moment giving us another Clinton. Instead, I think the Dems are going to lose even more to the Greenies, Nadarites, MoveOn.org "purists" next time around. They are stuck on stupid over the war and now using it to distract people from their impotence in Congress.

35 posted on 11/05/2005 10:59:43 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Wolfie
1) Many of the sites are regulated already by some authority. Some are under Irish, some are under Canadian, some are tribal rules.

2) One of the independent research houses on Wall Street (ISI) put out a piece today in their political report saying it could really pass this time around, unlike in '99,'00 and '02.

3) This will bite the GOP in the ass. I have never voted for a democrat, and live in a district where Republicans rarely live so I have little influence in the matter. However, I'm going to do my best to embarass the GOP out of pushing this bill. The Sponsor looked stupid when he was asked on CNBC why he's cool with an online state lottery in his state but looking to outlaw other gambling elsewhere. It's obvious this is a way of "getting back" at Abramoff.

I know that apolitical Joe Sixpack is going to look for someone's head on a platter the first day he logs on for his $0.50/$1 hold 'em game and Party to unwind and is told he can't because Congress said so. If we're looking for a way to piss of the Reagan Democrats, you couldn't find a better one.
36 posted on 02/17/2006 9:12:33 AM PST by bryanbig
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