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To: blam
Wow.. I could speak on this topic for hours...

I have a grade 9 limestone/chert leather working 3-way tool - 6500 years old.

50 years worth of treasure hunting has yielded thousands of artifacts from the continental shelf - all snaked away by state law and "tribal agreements" that are 11-25KY old - never to be seen by the public because they disprove the "we were here first" BS.

Algonkin stories go back 10-11KY ago

At the end of the last Ice age (subtracting 300' of sea water) It would have been easier to walk, hunt and fish from Paris France to NYC, then from Vladivostok to Seattle (had they existed then)

Rock hunting shelters carved into limestone faces complete with climbing steps exist in eastern NY and VT that "predate man" (yeah, right).

Mound settlements in FL are "truth dated" back to 21KYA

"Modern" spears, arrows, and points have been found 55 miles off the south coast of Iceland in 2000' of water

It just goes on and on. and the denial (BS) just gets deeper and deeper.

11 posted on 11/07/2005 3:45:22 PM PST by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: xcamel

Could you name those Algonkian stories? I worked with an Algonkian-speaking people for a number of years and heard myths that were unrecorded, and I am interested.

One myth involved birds flying over the sea.

Freepmail me if you wish.


15 posted on 11/07/2005 4:04:03 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: xcamel
Who Were The Si-Te-Cah?

"Lovelock, Nevada, is about eighty miles northeast of Reno. It was in a cave near here, in 1911, that guano miners found mummies, bones, and artifacts buried under four feet of bat excrement. The desiccated bodies belonged to a very tall people - with red hair."

"This is not the physical profile of your typical American Indian, to put it mildly. And in fact, the local Paiutes had legends about these towering troublemakers, whom they called the "Si-Te-Cah." According to them the redheads were a warlike people, and a number of the Indian tribes joined together in a long war against them. Eventually, the Paiutes and their allies forced the Si-Te-Cah back to their home acres, near Mount Shasta in our own California."

27 posted on 11/07/2005 5:04:53 PM PST by blam
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To: xcamel

This stuff just fascinates me no end, especially the possibility of ancient coastal seafaring that was pretty sophisticated.


57 posted on 11/09/2005 10:09:29 AM PST by FastCoyote
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