Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
Deseret News ^ | Thursday, November 10, 2005 | Elaine Jarvik

Posted on 11/12/2005 11:54:34 AM PST by andyk

The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor.

In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.

In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html.

"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says. Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations. "It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.

As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation."

Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The official explanation — that fires caused structural damage that caused the buildings to collapse — can't be backed up by either testing or history, he says.

Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and therefore is not 'junk science.' "

In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these arguments:

• The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled demolition" — and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here, along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."

• No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.

• WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors — and intact steel support columns — the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

• Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.

• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding." Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk at BYU in September. Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at Ground Zero.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy; propaganda; tinfoil; whackogarbage
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-100 next last
Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.

Well, this is coming from a physics professor of BYU. I never paid too much attention to the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11, so I don't know if this is anything new or not. Needless to say, I was a little surprised to see this in Deseret News, coming from a BYU physics prof.
1 posted on 11/12/2005 11:54:35 AM PST by andyk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: andyk

Again? Are you going to stay and discuss this? Why is this suddenly "news" today?


2 posted on 11/12/2005 11:56:39 AM PST by CindyDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk
What would a nuclear physicist know more about how buildings fall when they blow up than, say, a structural engineer?
3 posted on 11/12/2005 11:57:02 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bnelson44

Why would a....


4 posted on 11/12/2005 11:57:51 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: andyk

Already being debunked here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1520868/posts


5 posted on 11/12/2005 11:58:37 AM PST by ChuckHam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk

I have a white salamander that wants to talk to this guy.


6 posted on 11/12/2005 11:58:59 AM PST by martin_fierro (Lodi Idol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CindyDawg
Again? Are you going to stay and discuss this? Why is this suddenly "news" today?

Again what? Stay and discuss? I'm not sure. I have some plans today. Why is it news? Because it was written two days ago? I didn't see it posted.
7 posted on 11/12/2005 11:59:19 AM PST by andyk (Fear my strategery of misunderestimation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: andyk

The construction of the WTC towers was different than most buildings. When one floor went, it was a given that others would follow, and a complete collapse would likely result.

I'm willing to listen to just about any theory, but in this instance I believe the postulator is not only wrong, but it tragicly feeds the mindset that Moslems didn't do this, we (or some unseen force) did.

Nonsense!


8 posted on 11/12/2005 11:59:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk

He's a nut job.


9 posted on 11/12/2005 11:59:35 AM PST by MarkeyD (Cindy - The new 'C' word! I really, really loathe liberals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk

Okay, who's got the graphic of the "Not This S%%t Again!" guy?


10 posted on 11/12/2005 11:59:36 AM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ChuckHam

Thanks for the heads-up. I would have seen it had the troll used the article's title.


11 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:24 PM PST by andyk (Fear my strategery of misunderestimation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: andyk

Mr. Atta, Is that you?


12 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:37 PM PST by jimbo123
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk

This was just posted by a troll in another thread.


13 posted on 11/12/2005 12:00:48 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "ACLU Christmas")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: andyk

same troll same subject new post

IBTZ


14 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:13 PM PST by Wuli
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk
Apparently, Prof doesn't subscribe to Popular Mechanics.
15 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:14 PM PST by sono (That was a metaphor. You DO know what a metaphor is? - Z Miller)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MarkeyD
He's a nut job.

Yeah, he is. This is the first I've heard of him.
16 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:14 PM PST by andyk (Fear my strategery of misunderestimation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: andyk

"Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.

It just goes to show, you can find someone to believe in ANYTHING, no matter how preposterous. Amazing how the prepositioned explosives in the base of the buildings caused them to collapse from the top down. It also ignores the rather obvious explosions caused by aircraft ramming into the top floors, or was that staged, too?

Yet another good reason to eliminate tenure.


17 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:18 PM PST by CitizenUSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk
"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says

I sure hope they were PRE-planted because if they had been POST-planted there would have been no buildings to put them in. What a bufoon.

18 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:25 PM PST by Casloy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk

The guy is a nut. He needs to retire or have his tenure yanked.

That and a good slap upside the head.


19 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:41 PM PST by MediaMole
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: andyk

Sorry


20 posted on 11/12/2005 12:01:57 PM PST by CindyDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-100 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson