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Philadelphia beating victim who killed attacker cleared; Considers buying gun
Philadelphia Daily News ^

Posted on 11/13/2005 10:42:17 AM PST by sandan

LUCAS Dawson began carrying a knife after being attacked while kissing his male lover in a South Philadelphia Park four years ago.

Now, after a second assault by gay bashers - one of whom he killed in self-defense - Dawson's thinking about getting a gun.

The 21-year-old was cleared yesterday of charges in the fatal stabbing of a 17-year-old boy who was among a group that attacked him near his East Mount Airy home on Oct. 29.

There was great relief at the Dawson home yesterday after the decision by a Municipal Court judge, but now the concern is his safety.

Last night, Dawson packed to leave home for fear of retaliation.

"I mean, seven guys jumped me, and one guy died," he said. "There's still six other people that want to hurt me.

"I fear for my safety, and that's why I'm moving away," he added. "I won't carry a knife on me anymore, but I am considering getting a gun permit."

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; secondamendment; selfdefense
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1 posted on 11/13/2005 10:42:19 AM PST by sandan
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To: sandan

That's why it is called an "equalizer".


2 posted on 11/13/2005 10:45:30 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: sandan

While I don't approve of his life style, I do approve of his finding the guts to fight back. I hope he finds peace somewhere else, and gets instruction in the proper use of a gun.


3 posted on 11/13/2005 10:46:37 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: sandan

I'm betting the usual MSGM (Main Stream Gay Media) will pretend he doesn't exist. They're only interested in beatified martyrs whom they can make political hay out of.

Besides, they're leftists and leftists don't believe in self-defence.


4 posted on 11/13/2005 10:57:40 AM PST by sinanju
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To: sandan
"Attacked while kissing his male lover in a South Philadelphia Park."

I'm all for any individual who acquires a gun, is knowledgeable about it's use and is prepared to defend himself. I'm also for discretion in the exercise of displays of affection that many consider an abomination. I even feel that way about hetro displays.

Sounds to me like this guy is asking for whatever loose hinged nut is ready to dish out.

5 posted on 11/13/2005 11:05:50 AM PST by TCats
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To: sandan

A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged.


6 posted on 11/13/2005 11:08:39 AM PST by dljordan
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To: ridesthemiles
I hope he finds peace somewhere else, and gets instruction in the proper use of a gun.

No pun intended...

7 posted on 11/13/2005 11:09:28 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: TCats
Sounds to me like this guy is asking for whatever loose hinged nut is ready to dish out

Yeah, kinda like a chick in a mini skirt is just asking to be raped, right?

No one deserves to be attacked for any reason.

8 posted on 11/13/2005 11:14:12 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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9 posted on 11/13/2005 11:16:17 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: sandan
LUCAS Dawson began carrying a knife after being attacked while kissing his male lover in a South Philadelphia Park four years ago.

To tell you the truth, he probably has more to fear from his male lover than any homophobe who might want to attack him.

10 posted on 11/13/2005 11:23:20 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: teenyelliott
Yeah, kinda like a chick in a mini skirt is just asking to be raped, right?

I'm a "chick" and I'll jump on that. If girls dress like it's free and they're a walking ad for it, guess what's going to happen? Don't advertise what you aren't giving.

No one deserves to be attacked for any reason.

I agree with that but it a person knows it's a possibility why be a fool?

11 posted on 11/13/2005 11:24:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: teenyelliott
"No one deserves to be attacked for any reason."

There is so much about the eight years of the Clinton crime family's corruption of our country that makes me disagree with you. But, I'm sure you weren't talking about that.

12 posted on 11/13/2005 11:43:44 AM PST by GBA (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON! MSM do your job.)
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To: GBA
Certainly there is a difference between punishing someone for criminal offenses, and attacking someone who has done no bodily harm to another.

I love the death penalty. I think it is very effective regarding the recidivism rate. I just don't think anyone deserves the right to beat the crap out of someone simply because they don't agree with them.

But I know there are some who think that being gay is such a heinous behavior that this guy, and anyone like him, deserved to be beaten up. I wonder how they would feel if someone beat the crap out of them for being hateful judgmental jerks?

13 posted on 11/13/2005 11:58:53 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
If I want to dress like a whore, which I don't, I still do not "deserve" to be attacked. That is my point.

You can certainly treat someone differently based on their appearance, and we all do it. But NO ONE deserves physical harm for being different, no matter how you view them.

You and I would of course take into account the possibility of attracting unwanted attention, but for those who don't, will we not defend them when they are victimized?

14 posted on 11/13/2005 12:03:49 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
he probably has more to fear from his male lover than any homophobe

Really? Then why, four years after he began carrying a knife, was he attacked again by yet another homophobe?

15 posted on 11/13/2005 12:05:06 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott
"Yeah, kinda like a chick in a mini skirt is just asking to be raped, right?"

Not the same thing at all, or don't you see the difference?

Think back to darker days in the South where a black man might walk down the street holding hands with a white woman. There likely would be trouble. That doesn't make any trouble right but it is an acknowledgment of the social climate of that day and place.

16 posted on 11/13/2005 12:08:46 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats
You wrote, "this guy is asking for whatever loose hinged nut is ready to dish out

as though it was his own fault for being attacked. Yes I acknowledge that some behavior is inviting trouble.

But as I wrote in another post, "You and I would of course take into account the possibility of attracting unwanted attention, but for those who don't, will we not defend them when they are victimized? "

17 posted on 11/13/2005 12:15:02 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: sandan
Seven against one, and the one used a knife to send a member of the seven right on out of this life.

Excellent use of an edged weapon in self-defense.

Now his lawyer needs to get busy and sue the city for false arrest --- he's been in jail when he should have been released on his own recognizance pending trial.

Libby-fool D. A.s who can't tell the difference between self-defense and manslaughter need to have their hands slapped.

18 posted on 11/13/2005 12:16:35 PM PST by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... Na-No-Wri- ...])
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To: teenyelliott
If I want to dress like a whore, which I don't, I still do not "deserve" to be attacked. That is my point.

Deserving it isn't the point. Being foolish is. Hookers don't dress like nuns when attracting customers.

But NO ONE deserves physical harm for being different

No one on here said any differently.

You and I would of course take into account the possibility of attracting unwanted attention, but for those who don't,

There are hospitals.

will we not defend them when they are victimized?

I would hope the police arrest any attacker. Beyond that, some people need object lessons in being discreet.

19 posted on 11/13/2005 12:17:10 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: teenyelliott
"Yes I acknowledge that some behavior is inviting trouble."

That was my point in the first instance. The response was gratuitous. The rest (About defending 'True' victims) goes without saying.

20 posted on 11/13/2005 12:18:21 PM PST by TCats
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