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Top Commander Denounces Call for Iraq Withdrawal Deadline
WP ^ | Nov 16 2005 | Ellen Knickmeyer

Posted on 11/16/2005 2:47:18 PM PST by jmc1969

BAGHDAD, Nov. 16 -- A top American commander in Iraq on Wednesday denounced calls by some U.S. senators and others for a deadline on withdrawal from Iraq, calling that "a recipe for disaster" for the 2 -year-old war.

"Setting a date would mean that the 221 soldiers I've lost this year, that their lives will have been lost in vain," said Maj. Gen. William Webster, whose 3rd Infantry Division is responsible for security in three-fourths of Iraq's capital.

Webster's criticism of a withdrawal deadline referred to a Democratic proposal that would have required U.S. leaders to fix a rough date for pulling out the more than 140,000 Americans in Iraq.

Senate Republicans, however, joined Democrats in stepping up pressure on the White House to wind down the increasingly unpopular war, approving a measure setting 2006 as a "period of significant transition creating conditions for the phased redeployment of United States' forces from Iraq."

Signaling the intended timing of a withdrawal likely would only cue Iraq's armed factions to lie low for a time, gathering their strength and laying plans for renewed conflict when the Americans leave, Webster said.

In recent weeks, several Iraqi insurgent groups -- not including Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq -- have suggested a truce in return for a U.S. deadline on withdrawal, among other conditions.

"Our troops are trying to get this accomplished," Webster told a small group of reporters. "They believe they're doing the right thing. The soldiers believe they're helping."

While the United States has an exit strategy from Iraq, Webster said, he believed leaders had yet to even privately fix a plan setting dates for phased withdrawals. "I think it's a recipe for disaster," he said of the demands for such deadlines. "Setting a date is a loser."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 109th; aloser; alqaeda; bush; democraticproposal; gwot; iraq; oif; steelcurtain; terrorism; timetable; wot; zarqawi
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To: AFPhys
Fourteen Senators out of 100 that GET IT!!

Man is this Nation in trouble and 86% of the United States Senate don't know it or don't friggin care.

41 posted on 11/16/2005 5:15:48 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: jch10

re: Do we have to take to the streets???

It could be reaching that point. We are reaching the point where the average American citizen, tax payer has no ability to control government. A person's vote is worthless if the candidate who gets it refuses to keep the promises made to get that vote.


42 posted on 11/16/2005 5:19:55 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: jwpjr
They keep saying Iraq is another Viet Nam.

That was the headline in today's print edition of USA Today (we can't post from there on FR); that's what they want.

See my other posts on similar topics today.

43 posted on 11/16/2005 5:20:48 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Request or send care packages for/to troops at www.opgratitude.com)
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To: AFPhys

If anyone ever has any doubt what my (Bleck!) Senator Feingold (D, WI) is up to, just imagine the worst possible scenario for the end of this war, and that's what he'll vote for.

He's gunning for the White House. A twice divorced non-practicing Jew (not that there's anything wrong with his heritage, per se) and he has the backing of a lot of midwest lunatic fringe lefties.

Don't say I didn't warn you all. I consider it my Civic Duty. ;)


44 posted on 11/16/2005 5:22:26 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Thanks dita - I'm doing the same.

I had a discussion with an organization yesterday about the recruitment of challengers for some of these illustrious SINators. I just hope it is not too late.

Unfortunately, Warner's term is not up until '08. If he is smart, he won't seek another term.

45 posted on 11/16/2005 5:24:30 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: jmc1969

Actually, this call to wind down during 2006 is quite clever. It will help the GOP candidates in Nov 2006, while making it more difficult for the 'Rats to claim that Bush is trying to influence the elections by bringing troops home (as they would surely try to do).


46 posted on 11/16/2005 5:27:08 PM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat
The President et al have been talking about the likelihood of troop Dryden in '06 for over a year!

We have known for a long time that there would be 3 votes held in '05, while training of Iraqi forces continued.

It was stated that once the permanent government was installed and enough Iraqis were trained and ready to handle things on their own, we would begin leaving. You know..."As Iraqis stand up, we will stand down"

Either that has been said repeatedly, or I've been dreaming it. If dreaming - don't wake me.

47 posted on 11/16/2005 5:34:20 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: Justanobody

Sheesh ... </i>troop draw-down in '06


48 posted on 11/16/2005 5:35:44 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: MikeinIraq

49 posted on 11/16/2005 6:05:41 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Feingold is one of those in the very dangerous group I've spoken of several times today http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1522930/posts?page=33#33

--the "Yes Yes" group...

I find it most interesting to analyze the votes of the Demodogs who might someday want to run for president or other office:

With two exceptions, they all joined Jumpin'Jim and Chaffee and voted "Yes,Yes" to avoid being tagged: Hitlery, Biden, Dodd, Levin, Reid, even Shoomie, and did NOT co-sponsor.

Obama - Yes Yes ---- but is a co-sponsor of 2519! - bad move, I think but he's a relative neophyte. This was a political miscalculation that will be difficult for him to explain when he looks back on it.

Kerry - Yes, NO ---- doesn't matter... he's locked himself in long ago.

The calculation seems to have been that "yes,yes" was the least offensive to the greatest number of Demodogs.


50 posted on 11/16/2005 6:19:10 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

"I find it most interesting to analyze the votes of the Demodogs who might someday want to run for president or other office:"

Well, old Russ will definately keep you busy with that hobby! ;)


51 posted on 11/16/2005 6:24:59 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: jmc1969

as long as teddy doesn't have to go under water...


52 posted on 11/16/2005 6:31:12 PM PST by fatteddy (teddy kennedy............i should be in jail for what i did)
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To: baystaterebel

alot of these so called republicans are scared to do what is right .....they just want to get reelected....weak,weak,


53 posted on 11/16/2005 6:35:10 PM PST by fatteddy (teddy kennedy............i should be in jail for what i did)
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To: La Enchiladita
Right after the Republican Revolution in 1994 the Left started with the policy of the big lie. Every day it was another lie, usually bigger than the one from the day before. The Right's response was that the truth will always win over a lie. It might take time, but in the end, the truth will come out on top. So the Right's response to the big lie policy was to ignore it, thinking sooner or later people would see it for what it is. Well, that never happened. And I am convinced that because the Right failed to go on the attack quickly and decisively to refute each and every lie those the masses decided the lies must be the truth. Now it's almost too late. We have let the Left lie and lie and lie and lie, without so much as even a whimper from the MSM for the past 20 plus years, and now any attempt by the Right to refute a lie falls on deaf ears.

I don't know what the answer is, but if we don't find it pretty quickly our days are numbered.
54 posted on 11/16/2005 9:26:44 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: jmc1969

BUMP!


55 posted on 11/16/2005 9:27:56 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: jmc1969

Hmmm ... top commander disputes our craven pols -- and I thought they all supported the troops.

A pox on the pols and I will remember their words and deeds at next year's polls.


56 posted on 11/16/2005 9:28:57 PM PST by victim soul
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To: HarleyLady27

I do believe that if we don't raise up and act, the DemocRATS are going to ruin this Government and the country.

8 posted on 11/16/2005 2:56:16 PM PST by HarleyLady27

Actually the Democrats still run the Country.

I undestand that the Republicans control both Houses of Congress.

However, the Republicans are so cowed by the media that the Republicans let the Democrats call the shots.

The Democrats say,"Jump". The Republcans say "How High".

The Democrats say "S#$@". The Republicans say "How much and what color".

How does the media scare the Republicans? They call them "mean spirited".

While we do have a two party political system, one party has no principles and the other party has no spine or balls.
Therefore it is no contest.

Care to guess which Party is which and which Party actuall runs things?


57 posted on 11/16/2005 9:39:15 PM PST by sport
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To: AFPhys
...calendar year 2006 should be a period of significant transition ...

It may seem like a play on words but they do mean something. "Should" implies that it is mandated. If they would have used the word "could", this would imply that it is possible, even probable, but would not imply a mandate.

What we SHOULD do is stay the course and win the war, not give it over to a young unproven army. Remember, Iraq is a sovereign nation which can demand our troops to leave at any time. I believe we would comply.
58 posted on 11/16/2005 10:10:36 PM PST by Who is Truth? (TRUTH is not relative)
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To: Who is Truth?

1. "could" is not appropriate in that sentence.

2. If they had wished, they could have used the word "must" instead of "should" if they meant to state what many people are ascribing to this amendment.

3. A 'sense of the Senate' is completely non-binding, and is more advisory than anything else.


59 posted on 11/17/2005 3:44:17 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: sport

sad isn't it?


60 posted on 11/17/2005 6:25:47 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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