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Little Bullets Lose Respect
strategy page ^ | November 15, 2005

Posted on 11/17/2005 7:52:28 PM PST by strategofr

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Interesting.
1 posted on 11/17/2005 7:52:28 PM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr

I had a suspicion that this was going to happen.


I am old fashioned, I like 8mm or .303 m'self.


2 posted on 11/17/2005 7:54:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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Troops have to be cleaning these weapons constantly.

As they should.

3 posted on 11/17/2005 7:55:07 PM PST by wingnutx (tanstaafl www.punk-rock.com)
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To: strategofr

this bullet wt diameter issue just wont go away


4 posted on 11/17/2005 7:56:46 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: strategofr

Here's a very informative report:

http://www.firearmstactical.com/hwfe.htm


5 posted on 11/17/2005 7:58:07 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: strategofr

I think we have already talked this one to death on another thread.


6 posted on 11/17/2005 7:58:41 PM PST by yarddog
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To: strategofr

Even though the report is for handguns, many of its points are relevant to military small arms.


7 posted on 11/17/2005 7:59:39 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: Army Air Corps

What about the .308? Isn't that a round a version of the AR-15 uses??


8 posted on 11/17/2005 8:01:12 PM PST by madison46 (Would Dems in 1905 be running on ideas from 1835? That's what they do now.)
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To: strategofr

Is the 7.62 round the same as the .308? Like the FAL's?

Those shoot a long way don't they?

Pardon the long gun newbie question.


9 posted on 11/17/2005 8:04:12 PM PST by garyhope (.)
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To: yarddog; SLB
Weapons of the World: Little Bullets (5.56) Lose Respect
10 posted on 11/17/2005 8:08:11 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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Nothing wrong with the M-14. Lots of Marines weren`t happy when we lost them. Of course, Marines know how to shoot.


11 posted on 11/17/2005 8:09:06 PM PST by bybybill
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I read part of this and decided that I don't want to get shot. Not even with a .22. No thank you. Goodbye.


12 posted on 11/17/2005 8:09:10 PM PST by garyhope (.)
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"I read part of this and decided that I don't want to get shot. Not even with a .22. No thank you. Goodbye."

Too bad you had to wait this long to learn that, but its good you finally did.


13 posted on 11/17/2005 8:11:12 PM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: strategofr

Robert Ruark said "Use enough Gun." and IMHO 5.56 is not enough to use on a predater in the 100-200lb range. Most especially when aforementioned predator is in possesion of a firearm and can use it.
.30/06 is much better, but .45ACP and .50BMG among others are good, too.


14 posted on 11/17/2005 8:15:04 PM PST by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: strategofr

Wyatt Earp [IIRC] is vindicated! "One aimed shot is better than...".


15 posted on 11/17/2005 8:18:21 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: garyhope
Same thing, also the best all around hunting cal. My old rusty per-64 model 100 has been potting the deer for more than one year.
16 posted on 11/17/2005 8:18:22 PM PST by org.whodat
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Let's hope they dust off the plans for the AR-10 and make it happen.


17 posted on 11/17/2005 8:18:45 PM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: Flavius
this bullet wt diameter issue just wont go away

It shouldn't go away. It is a characteristic of a physical system. The correct rifling rate is a function of length to diameter. For a given caliber, more weight means a longer bullet and a faster required rate of spin to stabilize. At caliber .224 you need 1:12 for 40 gr, 1:9 for 55 gr, 1:8 for 62 gr. Spinning a bullet too fast for its weight can cause disintegration in flight.

Heavier bullets retain more kinetic energy over longer distances. Bullets with better ballistic coefficients e.g. hollow point/boat tail will given a more consistent trajectory. Pick the design that meets your intended use.

18 posted on 11/17/2005 8:20:54 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: strategofr

Thank you.

I am one smart feller!

A little slow perhaps,....but,...I do eventually pick up on the important stuff like,.. Don't Get Shot!


19 posted on 11/17/2005 8:22:00 PM PST by garyhope (.)
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To: strategofr
7.62 or .30 cal is the obvious choice. We know it works; we know its ballistics. We can make gazillions of them using existing tooling, and we can make polymer versions that weigh practically nothing.

Like the article said, most troops can hit what they can see with the first shot. The old 'one shot, one kill' thingy.

If you were lost in the dark, would you rather have 5 tiny crappy pocket flashlights, or one powerful and reliable one? Peace through superior firepower.

If you can hit the enemy from far away without exposing yourself to danger, that's a good thing. So what if you can carry fewer rounds. You can reach out and touch someone. Can you hear me now? Good.

20 posted on 11/17/2005 8:32:17 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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