Wilsongate: Motive, Means, and Opportunity

Original FReeper research | 11/21/2005 | Fedora

[betty boop]

Whatever crimes the Clintons or their operatives may have committed, they now had little to fear from the law.

Chilling Fedora. Thank you so much for the link.

[Barset]

This is great! What a shame the NYT and WAPO, the tv news, and the CIA do not have the amazing research facilities and swarms of researchers that you obviously have, as their reports might be almost as thorough as yours.

Thanks for all the digging and for posting the results.

The Wilson/Plame CIA assault on the institution of the presidency, and by extension, the electoral process itself, is the big story.

[Just mythoughts]

You noted the "tricky" part, political appointees typically are NOT civil servant covered positions. Was she still a political appointee or civil servant when she became attached to the Center for Strategic & International Studies?

[kabar]

You noted the "tricky" part, political appointees typically are NOT civil servant covered positions.

Career employees can fill political appointee jobs. It is quite common. Check out my link to the Plum book in #151. Ambassadorships are a good example.

Was she still a political appointee or civil servant when she became attached to the Center for Strategic & International Studies?

She was a civil servant on a sabbatical from the Agency, which means usually LWOP. Without knowing specifically how it was handled, there could be two scenarios. One, she could have been on a LWOP with CSIS picking up her salary costs. She would not receive credit for her USG pension. Two, the Agnecy paid her salary and loaned her to CSIS believing that it aided her professional development.

I would note that McCarthy was on the verge of retirement in 2006, which would have given her 22 years service with the CSIS service credited. She would need at least 20 years and be over age 55 to start receiving her pension immediately.

[Fedora]

President Bush fought against the "civil service" positions for life with the structuring of Homeland Security. These liberals were demanding special union status for the newly formed Homeland Security, which is what the midterm election of 2002 became about for the most part.

I remember some of that. Didn't that dispute resurface again recently in another form?--seems like I recall something similar coming up over the past few months but I can't put my finger on it off the top of my head.

[Just mythoughts]

Well there was some rumblings about making FEMA a separate agency outside of Homeland Security in the months after Hurricane Kat. Then today Senator Collins and Lieberman announced a desire to abolish FEMA and recreate another preparedness agency.

While there was not specific mention to my memory of resurrection of the UNION demands I have no doubt that if they abolish FEMA and create another agency directly answerable to the President their UNION demands will be again part of their plan.

[Fedora]

Thanks for the info on that. I think I was remembering something else, but still can't recall it--will mention it if it comes back to me. Too much Joseph Wilson must've fried my memory, LOL.

[SunkenCiv]

from November 2005. Thanks Fedora.

[Samurai_Jack]

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[Bryan24]

Fantastic research on Joseph Wilson.

I haven’t read but a small fraction of it. I plan to copy it all to one Word file and read it at home.

BTW, something to consider. When wheeling and dealing in Africa, most everything is done on 2 levels - The public version and the private version.

The Wilsons talk and talk about Oil and telecom ventures in Niger. From the CIA factbook regarding Niger....It is a landlocked, Sub-Saharan nation, whose economy centers on subsistence crops, livestock, and some of the world’s largest uranium deposits.

As I said, I’ve not read your entire research on this, but ifI were a betting man, I’d bet the farm that Joseph Wilson was/is actually in the business of dealing uranium on the “black” or “gray” market.

[Fedora]

I can only comment on the public record in an article like this, but of course there is always more going on. CIA had used Wilson in Africa before. The details remain largely classified, but from what has been released we know it involved similar nuclear proliferation issues, an area his wife specialized in. I think there is a need for an Oil-for-Food type of investigation to get to the bottom of Wilson’s dealings.