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Bird flu's evolution, links to 1918 pandemic studied, debated
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | November 23, 20005 | Gina Kolata

Posted on 11/29/2005 8:05:54 AM PST by Toidylop

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very interesting...
1 posted on 11/29/2005 8:05:57 AM PST by Toidylop
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To: Toidylop
We're all gonna die! of Ebola, Sars, Bird Flue!
2 posted on 11/29/2005 8:08:57 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Toidylop

"I can't even assign a hemisphere," he said. "It just came from somewhere else"

Dummy, it's from a comet.


3 posted on 11/29/2005 8:24:40 AM PST by bkepley
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To: Toidylop

Did you know that the 1918 flu pandemic started in Kansas?


4 posted on 11/29/2005 8:32:54 AM PST by montomike
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Could the 1918 epidemic have been part of an attempt at biological warfare by the Central Powers in WWI?

They were desperate, clutching at straws, and searching for a weapon that would help them survive. They started using poison gas,
as one alternative. Did they consider using plague?

The outbreak began in the American army; it might have decimated that army worse than any battle, and rendered it unable to come to the battlefield until after the Germans had taken Paris and rendered American assistance irrelevant.

But the plague might have gotten out of control, and all records of its use been lost/destroyed.

(Just food for thought. . . )


5 posted on 11/29/2005 8:50:40 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: montomike

Read the book, The Great Influenza by John Barry.

It started in Kansas, spread to a big troop facility, and thence to the rest of the world.


6 posted on 11/29/2005 8:55:16 AM PST by montomike
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To: montomike

I saw a program linking the 1918 pandemic to the (American) use of mummy-wrappings in the production of brown paper bags - subsequently used to wrap meat. It's an interesting historical story: the link to the influenza isn't proven though.


7 posted on 11/29/2005 9:11:40 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: bkepley

Hmm. The Tunguska Comet impact was about this time wasn't it?


8 posted on 11/29/2005 9:13:48 AM PST by 43north (186,000 miles per second; its not just a good idea, its the law!)
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To: CondorFlight

The science did not exist to use viruses in bio-warfare at the time of WWI.


9 posted on 11/29/2005 9:14:34 AM PST by 43north (186,000 miles per second; its not just a good idea, its the law!)
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To: neverdem

Ping


10 posted on 11/29/2005 9:14:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: agere_contra

Hadn't heard that one yet. Interesting...


11 posted on 11/29/2005 9:20:12 AM PST by Chili Girl
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To: 43north

Maybe it wasn't Tunguska? There was a big comet that exploded over Siberia in the very early 1900's. Never actually hit the earth but flattened a lot of the uninhabited countryside up there.


12 posted on 11/29/2005 9:26:41 AM PST by 43north (186,000 miles per second; its not just a good idea, its the law!)
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43north said it... I wouldn't put much stock in tin-foil hat theory :)
13 posted on 11/29/2005 9:31:11 AM PST by Toidylop
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To: Toidylop

Tin foil hats won't protect from the flu. You need a tin foil mask sealed tightly over the nose and mouth and I guarantee - no flu.


14 posted on 11/29/2005 9:32:48 AM PST by 43north (186,000 miles per second; its not just a good idea, its the law!)
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To: Toidylop
It was killed off during the civil war.

A Pteranodon ...
15 posted on 11/29/2005 9:37:31 AM PST by Scythian
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To: 43north

Yea I think it was Tunguska. Alien flu


16 posted on 11/29/2005 9:38:46 AM PST by bobdsmith
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The truth is out there. Trust no one.


17 posted on 11/29/2005 12:00:14 PM PST by 43north (186,000 miles per second; its not just a good idea, its the law!)
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To: Travis McGee; Toidylop
Science moves in mysterious ways, and sometimes what seems like the end of the story is really just the beginning. Or, at least, that is what some researchers are thinking as they scratch their heads over the weird genetic sequence of the 1918 flu virus.

I thought this looked familiar.

Hazard in Hunt for New Flu: Looking for Bugs in All the Wrong Places

Science moves in mysterious ways, and sometimes what seems like the end of the story is really just the beginning. Or, at least, that is what some researchers are thinking as they scratch their heads over the weird genetic sequence of the 1918 flu virus.

The San Diego Union Tribune waited two weeks and gave it a new title. Since I started looking at regional papers around the country, I've noticed that a lot of regional papers seem to wait a little and slap new titles on stories from the NY Times and the Washington Post.

Check this out. For Gina Kolata, the Times gives free access to almost all of her articles. Unless you have subscribed to TimesSelect, I believe as I don't subscribe, you normally have to pay for access to articles more than a week old.

18 posted on 11/29/2005 12:08:30 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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19 posted on 08/17/2006 10:46:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Flu: The Story Of The Great Influenza Pandemic Flu:
The Story Of The
Great Influenza Pandemic

by Gina Kolata

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