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Atheists File Suit Against UHP Memorial Crosses
ABC 4 in Utah ^ | 12/1/2005 | ABC 4

Posted on 12/01/2005 7:13:41 AM PST by Andyman

A lawsuit against memorial crosses is set to be filed Thursday by a group that feels they violate the separation of church and state.

Three Utah atheists, backed by a national organization based in Texas, are filing suit against the state for allowing crosses to be erected in honor of highway patrol troopers, who have died in the line of duty.

Richard Andrews said, "I feel the same way a Jew might feel if you put a state symbol on a swastika"

According to the UHP Association, a support group for troopers and their families, many fallen troopers' relatives consider the memorial crosses just as important as the tombstones that mark their graves.

Sgt. Todd Royce of the UHP Association told ABC 4 News, "It's a sense of pride, I think. It's a... kind of a sacred feeling."

The atheists suggest the association could honor the troopers with a non-denominational symbol.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: atheistagenda; athiests; cross; lawsuit; memorials; moralabsolutes; purge; secularjihad
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Left-brained dorks with no sense of humor are such a riot!

You probably love armpit farts too.

181 posted on 12/02/2005 8:18:35 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: mc6809e
Three Utah atheists, backed by a national organization based in Texas, are filing suit against the state for allowing crosses to be erected in honor of highway patrol troopers, who have died in the line of duty.

How can you claim that allowing crosses is "bullying"? Are you that insecure in your atheism?

182 posted on 12/02/2005 8:38:11 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: mewzilla
"...first the atheists will come for the Christians. Then the Jews. The Muslims. Et al. Any person of faith. Anyone who thinks his/her faith is safe will be sadly mistaken.

The atheists are coming after Christians and Jews, but they're way too cowardly to stand up to the muslims. The only people that do that are...Christians and Jews.

183 posted on 12/02/2005 8:43:24 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: SCALEMAN
I have concluded that the ones who protest don't want to be reminded that if they are wrong, then they made a huge mistake in judgement.

Ironically, if they get reminded now, they may just escape the eternal reminder they're heading for later.

184 posted on 12/02/2005 9:48:32 AM PST by Dahoser (Time to condense the nonsense: Terry Tate for Congressional Linebacker.)
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To: July 4th

ya know I've had about all I can digest of these POS'...

we lost 10 Marines today and 11 wounded fighting for this country


We're gonna keep the crosses & Stars of David, the Nativity scenes, saying "Merry Christmas" and if I feel like it; I'm gonna tell the 'Rats, Lefties, Liberals, Socialists, Commies ,agnostics and atheists and any other a-hole to go STRAIGHT TO HELL!


and if any swinging Richard doesn't like our history, custom, culture, religions and language maybe they should just pack up and get the hell out of here!


Point, Game, Set, Match!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


185 posted on 12/02/2005 12:32:58 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Morris_Hattrick

Your entire argument is idiotic. A cross is a valid marker for any dead person. Do you actually stop and think, "a cross on the side of the road. This must be a religious statement made by a zealot."? I hope not. I think, "someone died here, and someone or some group cared enough to mark his/her passing". I haven't seen any evidence that any crosses were placed against anyone's wishes. And the whole nazi slant just proves how absolutely baseless these morons' claims are.
I agree with the guy who said, "if it offends you so much, look away." After all, these officers died protecting your sorry, worthless ass.

And just so we don't offend the atheists, we promise to bury them face down with no marker.


186 posted on 12/02/2005 2:59:58 PM PST by MooseMan (That's all I have to say about that.)
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To: Madeleine Ward; mc6809e
In what ways do Christians use the state to bully non-Christians. Start giving some examples.

Crickets...

187 posted on 12/02/2005 4:05:33 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: Andyman; Right Wing Professor
As an adult, Hitler specifically rejected the Catholic Church, as well as Christianity in general. He described himself as "a complete pagan".

SovietProfessor does not let facts get in the way of a good rant against religion (well, Christians anyway). Besides, an atheist is yet again trying to impose his views on others, so a distraction was needed by one of his peers.

188 posted on 12/02/2005 4:26:48 PM PST by Hacksaw (Monomania is treatable.)
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To: Andyman
Atheists File Suit Against UHP Memorial Crosses

Atheists have no shame.

189 posted on 12/02/2005 4:37:09 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: fightnback

Acknowledging it, and not "preventing the free exercise thereof" as spelled out in the Constitution.

This is nothing more than the continuing, relentless campaign by America's God-haters to force everyone to live lives of non-belief like they choose to do.



190 posted on 12/02/2005 4:38:39 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: mc6809e
The state has no right to the free exercise of religion. That would be the same as establishing religion which is prohibited by the first amendment.

Only if it's done by way of a law being passed. "Congress shall make no law....."

191 posted on 12/02/2005 4:44:37 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: little jeremiah
I felt intimidated earlier when I saw a sign in Spanish. I don't speak Spanish. Just what are these language bullies trying to do here? Why do they insist on excluding me?

Get me an ACLU lawyer, pronto.
192 posted on 12/02/2005 6:19:05 PM PST by Das Outsider
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To: Hacksaw
SovietProfessor does not let facts get in the way of a good rant against religion (well, Christians anyway). Besides, an atheist is yet again trying to impose his views on others, so a distraction was needed by one of his peers

Thanks for proving my point that being a dollop of pond scum is entirely consistent with being a self-proclaimed 'Christian'.

193 posted on 12/02/2005 9:12:34 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Andyman

If the atheists don't mind the troopers being honored in some way, then they should leave it up to the families to choose the symbol. The honor is about the troopers, not about non-related atheists.

If it comes down to the atheists objecting to tax dollars being used, then they can be reimbursed when the rest of us are reimbursed for government funding of NPR, Planned Parenthood and the lawsuit expenses incurred by idiotic lawsuits started by atheists.


194 posted on 12/02/2005 9:59:22 PM PST by skr
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To: Andyman
I say we toss the atheist in jail for no reason and kick him in the ass to really fulfill his Nazi fantasy.... I'll play the lead cop.
195 posted on 12/02/2005 10:01:48 PM PST by Porterville (Beware the Egyptian Politics)
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To: WildTurkey

Just your humble opinion huh?


196 posted on 12/03/2005 12:24:34 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: Das Outsider
I felt intimidated earlier when I saw a sign in Spanish. I don't speak Spanish. Just what are these language bullies trying to do here? Why do they insist on excluding me?

Get me an ACLU lawyer, pronto.

ROTFL!

197 posted on 12/03/2005 6:29:25 PM PST by Left Blue NJ for Red SC
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To: dangus

Actually, I believe that the Gottscheer were moved out of the Gottschee/Kocevje area by Hitler. Tito (who was a Croat with some Slovene blood, btw)merely prevented them from returning.

http://www.carniola.org/theglory/2004/07/the_depopulatio.htm


199 posted on 12/05/2005 4:31:44 PM PST by Jacob Kell (BBC-Buttheaded Bolshevik Communists. CNN-Communist Numbnutted Nincompoops)
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To: Jacob Kell

He prevented them from returning by killing every last one of them.


200 posted on 12/05/2005 9:25:22 PM PST by dangus
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