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Citizen MD [American Medical Association op-ed against Intelligent Design]
American Medical Association ^ | 12/02/2005 | Paul Costello

Posted on 12/03/2005 6:18:54 AM PST by Right Wing Professor

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To: Amish with an attitude
A bandit with a red shirt robbed a bank therefore, if all red shirts are destroyed there will be no more bank robberies.

Yeah, but if all the red shirted people magically disappeared it wouldn't be a major planetary improvement. And thinking of it wouldn't give me a nice warm feeling.

181 posted on 12/03/2005 2:21:47 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Amish with an attitude

BTW what is an Amish doing anywhere near an electronic device? Or is that the "with an attitude" part? Of course that means you can't be Amish. I'm so confused.

What are you, exactly? Other than what you reveal in your posts.


182 posted on 12/03/2005 2:22:00 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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Stay-Puft-Man placemarker.


183 posted on 12/03/2005 2:23:57 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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To: mdmathis6
Evolution belief= smart person worthy of the Scientific elite.

Evolution debunker= dumb bigoted religious hick

yeah we do get it!

Or, conversely:

Evolution belief = Godless athiest, anti-Christian bigot.

Evolution debunker = Good Christian who is in the graces of the Almighty.

Yeah, we get it too!!

Ain't bickering fun???? LOL

184 posted on 12/03/2005 2:24:42 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine (Horse feces (929 citations) vs ID (0 citations) and horse feces wins!!!!!)
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To: jennyp; Gumlegs

I'm waiting for Gumlegs to post a picture.


185 posted on 12/03/2005 2:25:12 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: furball4paws

Perceptive of you, that is ideed the attitude part.


186 posted on 12/03/2005 2:25:52 PM PST by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: b_sharp
"The message and the value of post 71 is easily understood. What is hard to understand is your penchant for presenting 'quote mines'. For those lurkers out there. A quote mine is a quote taken out of context and presented in such a way that its meaning is changed. The usual purpose is to make the original author appear to be agreeing with the miner. It is a contrived use of the 'Appeal to Authority' logical fallacy."

A contextomy is to quote someone out of context in such a way as to misrepresent what he believes about the subject of which he is writing or speaking.

If there was any misrepresentation of Ruse's beliefs, it was done by John S. Wilkes, since he is the one who quoted him. DUH.

Now if you want "context", you got context, my friend - I just posted his whole commentary HERE.

187 posted on 12/03/2005 2:30:41 PM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: whattajoke; JudgemAll

"Unproven, evil, satanic theories."


They are not unproven, one can demonstrate the "fact" regarding the "theory" of lift simply through the use of colored smoke and a wind tunnel with the corresponding math to describe what is going on. Or yet, build a plane.

What hasn't been proven is that life can arise from non-life...though evolution is supposedly more concerned with the Origin of species and their development into modern forms and not with Life's(in the macro sense) origins per se.

The problem with the theory of evolution as opposed to the theory of Lift is that you can concretely demonstrate lift,(build a plane with certain mathematical and physical characteristics and it will fly). Evolution at best can only be demonstrated INFERENTIALLY through measurements and predictions based on observations of strata, age of rocks and fossils,ect and "educated" speculations.

You science types are ultimately going to have to build a time machine so that you can show concretely that evolution unguided by any sort of the divine actually occured, inferences won't make the "plane" fly so to speak.


188 posted on 12/03/2005 2:34:48 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: js1138

What I find wrong with it is its use as a quote mine.


189 posted on 12/03/2005 2:36:45 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
"But the reason is the same as for you creationists: we are really uncomfortable with some of the things people teach or want to teach our children."

I am not a "creationist" as that word is understood by Darwinists, nor do I want to teach your children anything. What your children are taught is YOUR responsibility and none of my business. And I want the same attitude extended to me. This problem will never go away as long as people insist that they have the right to ursurp parental rights and use "the government" to indoctrinate school children with ideas their parents object to. That is the REAL debate.

190 posted on 12/03/2005 2:39:32 PM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: 2ndreconmarine

"Ain't bickering fun???? LOL"


Well one things for sure...Wahabist Muslims want to kill both evolutionist and Christian infidel. I'll guard your back when the fighting starts if you guard mine...when the smoke clears...we can always bicker again later!


191 posted on 12/03/2005 2:40:05 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: Amish with an attitude

So you must exist "mostly", outside the fold. Yet you seem to cherish the Amish part, too. Are you young and expect to rejoin later? Or are you cut off, permanently?

If I'm too curious, just say so.


192 posted on 12/03/2005 2:42:21 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: Alain Chartier

Agree. Not much question he was a fool. Bu Linnaeus was going by appearances, modern evolutionary analysis is mostly molecular


193 posted on 12/03/2005 2:46:20 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: mdmathis6

"I'll guard your back when the fighting starts if you guard mine...when the smoke clears...we can always bicker again later!"

Very witty and all to true, count me in too.


194 posted on 12/03/2005 2:46:31 PM PST by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: furball4paws

Never been Amish officially.

After spending 38 years immersed in the world of high tech electronics in a land called Kalifornistan, I now prefer the outwardly simple life here on the ranch many miles from whence I came.


195 posted on 12/03/2005 2:57:50 PM PST by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: Amish with an attitude

Ah, so a Lancaster Co. adoptee. OK everything makes sense now. Too bad. A real Amish would have been very interesting.


196 posted on 12/03/2005 3:00:14 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
Proposal 3: Let's determine if he believes in the Intelligent Designer and all he/she/it Designs. If 'No', then no money for you. If 'Yes', then we'll give you some money but we'll be watching you closely.
197 posted on 12/03/2005 3:07:32 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: furball4paws

Sorry I couldn't help on the Amish thing.

Made myself too old in that last post, make the 38 a 15.


198 posted on 12/03/2005 3:08:07 PM PST by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: balrog666
you unbelievably ignorant clown!

This thread is a veritable circus.

199 posted on 12/03/2005 3:08:46 PM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: furball4paws

He's so big, he doesn't fit!

200 posted on 12/03/2005 3:11:14 PM PST by Gumlegs
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