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LIVE THREAD: Cloture vote on the Patriot Act Reauthorization bill - C-span 2 9:30 am EST
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Posted on 12/16/2005 6:13:47 AM PST by ken5050

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To: Mo1

Frankly, UpChuck Hagel sickens me more than Specter, Chafee, the Maine Gals, the Ohio Boys Cryin' Bitch & DeWine, Warner, or any of the other "moderates" -- even McCain.


21 posted on 12/16/2005 6:48:02 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: Bahbah

Reid is quoting the WaPo story on the 30,000 NSL's issued, which others have said is false, not that that would stop Reid.


22 posted on 12/16/2005 6:48:12 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Bahbah
We live in the United States of America .. not a dictatorship like Cuba

Ummm .. I guess Reid didn't get the ok from Dodd to say that

23 posted on 12/16/2005 6:48:22 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1

I guess the left didn't mind when Clinton had satellites spy on American citizens after the Oklahoma City bombing.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1541442/posts


24 posted on 12/16/2005 6:48:44 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

I hadn't seen that article .. thanks

These comments from the Dems is not a road they really don't want to go down


25 posted on 12/16/2005 6:52:12 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Peach

Report Could Torpedo Hillary Clinton's Prez Plans (Tax Audit Abuse)
newsmax.com ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1541702/posts


26 posted on 12/16/2005 6:55:21 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Bahbah

Reid is for the 3 month extention Bill??


27 posted on 12/16/2005 6:57:11 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1
Reid is for the 3 month extention Bill??

Yeah, so they can come back then and do this same dance....

28 posted on 12/16/2005 6:58:06 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Mo1
Reid is for the 3 month extention Bill??

Yes, but I can't figure out what they are up to.

29 posted on 12/16/2005 6:58:18 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Bahbah

They don't want to vote against cloture and be seen as against the Patriot Act.

Just another "we don't know what to do" about national security.


30 posted on 12/16/2005 7:00:28 AM PST by Chuck54 (Free Scooter, Indict Joe W)
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To: Bahbah
Yes, but I can't figure out what they are up to.

Feinstein was up yesterday saying she would vote against Specter's bill .. but would vote for Sununu's 3 month delay bill

IMO .. more time would give the NYT and WP more time to make up stories and bash this patriot Act Bill

31 posted on 12/16/2005 7:00:49 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: mewzilla
They've put off the vote for an hour and a half?

Senate started at 9:30. Typically, cloture votes are at least one hour after startup. C-SPAN2 reports that the cloture vote is to occur at 11:00 AM.

32 posted on 12/16/2005 7:01:10 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thanks. Well, 43 should've bought himself all kinds of good will after yesterday's little gesture, eh?


33 posted on 12/16/2005 7:02:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Mo1

Frist had a 1-year extension planned if cloture fails, which puts this debate near the next election. The Democrats don't want to take down the Patriot Act altogether because it tears down the wall that the Democrats already acknowledge as being a problem. But they certainly don't want to be debating the Patriot Act next October.

SO they will support a 3-month extension, putting the political fight into early next year when people won't be paying attention.


34 posted on 12/16/2005 7:06:28 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ken5050

I don't want the Democrats to have these powers, should they somehow win the presidency.


35 posted on 12/16/2005 7:11:16 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

The Patriot Act will automatically be de-activated if it isn't re-authorized in a few years. Which I think is great. I support the Patriot Act, but I do think that under the wrong leadership it could be used against American citizens. It's definitely not something you want around forever. Remember, once you empower the government, they never give it back to the people.


36 posted on 12/16/2005 7:17:22 AM PST by JWojack
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To: Bahbah

Kennedy objecting .. but he's not sure what he is objecting to

Asking about time left and when the vote will be


37 posted on 12/16/2005 7:17:43 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: All

Oh crap...........Kennedy is up asking about the time before the vote.....

I think he's got a lot to spew today...


38 posted on 12/16/2005 7:17:57 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: ken5050

Thanks for the ping. :)


39 posted on 12/16/2005 7:18:33 AM PST by maggief
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To: JWojack
I support the Patriot Act, but I do think that under the wrong leadership it could be used against American citizens. It's definitely not something you want around forever.

I'm conflicted about this part of the bill also

It's a good bill to get the terrorists that want to kill us

But in the hands of a Liberal is a very scary thought

40 posted on 12/16/2005 7:20:09 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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