To: new yorker 77
No way...I'm going to send them an e-mail thanking them for voting "no". The Patriot Act is flat-out unconstitutional--& why I'm disappointed that the Act itself wasn't repealed entirely, this is a good start.
7 posted on
12/16/2005 11:02:49 AM PST by
libertyman
("....It's [the Constitution] just a g-ddamned piece of paper" --Presidebt Bush, Nov. '05)
To: libertyman
You can take a vacation with McCain and Bin Laden.
There is nothing unconstitutional about the Patriot Act.
There is something very stupid about those who look to make forgetting 9-11 our national pastime.
10 posted on
12/16/2005 11:05:21 AM PST by
new yorker 77
(FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
To: libertyman
"The Patriot Act is flat-out unconstitutional"
How so? Explain how it differs from things like the prior approved methods involving organized crime? If you can.
31 posted on
12/16/2005 11:44:09 AM PST by
Wuli
To: libertyman
Thanks for saying that. I was going to post a "Good for Them" until I read your better stated post.
54 posted on
12/16/2005 12:01:16 PM PST by
jammer
To: libertyman
I agree with you. The Patriot act is not Constitutional. I sympathize with its creators, in that America is facing a serious threat that has to be dealt with, but I have to err on the side of Ben Franklin, who said
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
The problem is that the American public does not have a realistic view of the war we are in against Islamic Extremism. They want safety, but lack the fortitude to wage true warfare on those who would kill us. So they try feebly to trade basic liberties and privacy to make up the difference for porous borders, and squeamish anti-bloodshed-at-all-costs press.
From such crises the Leviathan of Government does grow. Which brings me to another favorite:
"Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. It is a force, like fire: a dangerous servant and a terrible master".
-George Washington
To: libertyman
So am I. Actually considering their stance, I may well send them handwritten thank you notes as well
90 posted on
12/16/2005 12:53:29 PM PST by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: libertyman
Whoa. Only took seven posts for a rational POV. Personally, I'd rather be free than "protected".
114 posted on
12/16/2005 1:32:59 PM PST by
Doohickey
(If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
To: libertyman
No way...I'm going to send them an e-mail thanking them for voting "no". The Patriot Act is flat-out unconstitutional--& why I'm disappointed that the Act itself wasn't repealed entirely, this is a good start.
BTTT! I'll do the same! Blackbird.
To: libertyman
Still have that lying tagline I see. And you are clueless as to the constitutionality of the Law as well.
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