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To: cornelis; Alamo-Girl
For some, what is good can be known as an experience of pneumatic consciousness. Putting epistemological pressure on that experience will increase the risk of apperzeptionsverweigerung, the disease of aversion that Dr. Voegelin was quick to sniff out.

Voegelin translates apperzeptionsverweigerung as "the refusal to apperceive." (I stuck in the italics there.) But what is "apperception?" According to Leibniz (and I gather, Voegelin), it is the word denoting the introspective or reflective apprehension by the mind of its own inner states. Apperception contrasts with "perception," which is awareness of something external to the mind, of something "out there" in the world external to the thinker that becomes fodder for sensory perception (so to speak).

If a person "apperceives" the Good, wouldn't he be at least mildly interested in its authentic Source? I mean the Good — a universal — does not just spring up out of the soil like mushrooms, nor of any material process in Nature. And if you do not know the Source, then how can you say the Good is "good?"

This is what puzzles me: I don't understand how a pneumatic experience of the Good — which is and must be an apperception — if exposed to "epistemological pressure" — to noetic analysis — increases the risk of "the disease of aversion." Aversion to what? The Good?

It seems to me that apperzeptionsverweigerung is closely related to Cicero's aspernatio rationalis, or "contempt of Reason [Nous]." I also see the kinship of this idea with the Greek word anoia: "folly, oblivion, [I'd say 'to be out of one's mind' in modern parlance]."

Voegelin, in Book V of Order and History [p. 43], draws the major implication of such "folly": Forgetfulness of one's partnership in the great hierarchy of being — God–Man–World–Society — and, consequently, the transformation of assertive participation in this community into self-assertion: Man, not God, then becomes the measure (ratio) of all that there is [to pan].

I agree with Alamo-Girl's observation: "I suspect many who call themselves agnostic are not seekers [after truth] but rather are simply disinterested [in truth]." An agnostic — arguably someone who suffers from anoia — is "a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God."

Well jeepers, if you postulate that right up front, you can surely save yourself a whole heap of trouble!!! But I just call this "mental laziness, lassitude, or — taking my cue from Heraclitus — 'dreaming.'"

Of Heraclitus, we have only a few tantalizing, often puzzling fragments. The following — among my favorites — are clear enough, and I hear them echoing in Plato — especially his insights into the Logos, the "ratio" to which my dearest sister in Christ alluded in a recent post:

But though the Logos is common, the many live as if they had a wisdom of their own. [2]

Those who are awake have a world one and common, but those who are asleep each turn aside into their own private worlds. [89]

It is not meet [fitting] to act and speak like men asleep. [73]

Those who speak with the mind must strengthen themselves with that which is common to all, as the polis does with the law and more strongly so. For all human laws nourish themselves from the one divine — which prevails as it will, and suffices for all things and more than suffices. [114]

Although this Logos is eternally valid, yet men are unable to understand it — not only before hearing it, but even after they have heard it for the first time. That is to say, although all things come to pass in accordance with this Logos, men seem to be quite without any experience of it — at least if they are judged in the light of such words and deeds as I am here setting forth. My own method is to distinguish each thing according to its nature, and to specify how it behaves; other men, on the contrary, are as forgetful and heedless in their waking moments of what is going on around and within them as they are during sleep. [1]

In conclusion, I believe the "disease of aversion" finds its root in a deformed psyche — precisely one that refuses to apperceive — not in epistemological analysis. Historically, it has mainly taken the form of the forbidding of all questions that a "master of aversion" — such as Marx, Comte, et al. — does not want asked. And that "forbidding" is absolute, streng verboten!!!

Aristotle famously avers that "all men desire to know." Well jeepers, as a denizen of a collapsed and corrupt culture, who listens to what "men" have to say these days about their position in the world at large (to pan) and as they are in themselves, I'd have to say Aristotle's claim borders on the fatuous.

It seems to me the School of Athens has the more profound insight: "Know Thyself."

It seems to me "epistemology" begins precisely there: To "know thyself" is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom. And mainly this instruction is pointing to knowledge about movements in apperceptive experience; that is, to primary movements in psyche, a/k/a the human soul, which presumably can respond to divine Nous (Reason) via human nous (reason).

IF, that is, the human soul is "open" enough to have such experiences, and to be able to reflect upon them noetically; i.e., by Reason.

FWIW! Thanks so very much for writing, dear cornelis!

24 posted on 06/13/2013 4:22:56 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your wonderful and informative essay-post, dearest sister in Christ!

The Heraclitus quotes very quite interesting.

It seems to me that apperzeptionsverweigerung is closely related to Cicero's aspernatio rationalis, or "contempt of Reason [Nous]." I also see the kinship of this idea with the Greek word anoia: "folly, oblivion, [I'd say 'to be out of one's mind' in modern parlance]."

I very strongly agree. Such a person would simply be going through the motions of physical life (action/reaction) like a primitive life form, a biological robot.

25 posted on 06/13/2013 8:01:09 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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