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Pope proclaims 19 new saints
Herald Sun ^ | 21 December 2005

Posted on 12/20/2005 3:01:37 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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To: Cicero

In English.I am willing to listen friend.


41 posted on 12/20/2005 7:02:00 PM PST by fatima
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To: Aussie Dasher
Two saints. Seventeen beatified...
42 posted on 12/20/2005 7:03:09 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Señor Zorro
Ah, but being a saint in Catholocism means so much more.

Oh I totally agree with that. I was trying to put into Earthly terms the rationale behind the canonization process. Kind of like when you ask someone to pray for you, it's akin to accessing for intercession from Saints.

43 posted on 12/20/2005 7:04:11 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: Aussie Dasher

I'm glad Juniperro Serra did not make it. That would have been his last miracle! One too many IMO!


44 posted on 12/20/2005 7:06:28 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: NYer

That's good, but I'm waiting for an American Saint.


45 posted on 12/20/2005 7:42:07 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Cicero

The Promoter of the Faith (Latin Promotor Fidei), or Devil's Advocate (Latin advocatus diaboli) was established in 1587 and was in effect until it was abolished by Pope John Paul II in 1983.


46 posted on 12/20/2005 8:52:27 PM PST by WJHII
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To: Cicero

Unfortunately, in the early 1980's the Devil's Advocate was dropped from the process of sainthood. Personally, I can't comprehend why they would drop it. I guess it accounts in part for the huge increase in saints and blesseds under JPII. :-(


47 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:15 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS

Yes, true. I was using the old term metaphorically, but perhaps it might have confused people who hadn't heard that. They still need to comb through the files, I would think, to eliminate candidates with negative indications.


48 posted on 12/20/2005 9:00:01 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: highlander_UW
I'm a saint...at least according to scripture. I didn't need the pope to recognize me as such though. Good thing it doesn't work that way.

Was anyone even asking? Seriously, I think it's a testament to the Church's power through Christ that some Protestants feel compelled to come on these threads to preach against her.
49 posted on 12/20/2005 9:52:43 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: knarf
We have the scriptures.

Well, at least 66 books of it. And unfortunately that's all you have. And that is a shame.
50 posted on 12/20/2005 9:54:46 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: karnage
I'm just a run-of-the-mill sinner, but I think one of the qualities of saints is their humility. Dunno how well saying, "I'm a saint" squares with that!

Beautiful.
51 posted on 12/20/2005 9:55:32 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Tell us what you really think of Catholics.


52 posted on 12/20/2005 10:08:06 PM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: Conservative til I die
Was anyone even asking? Seriously, I think it's a testament to the Church's power through Christ that some Protestants feel compelled to come on these threads to preach against her.

I'm sorry if you have a problem with the truth. A saint is a follower of Christ...it doesn't take anyone to declare it. It is interesting that you believe that to state the truth is to preach against the RCC.

53 posted on 12/20/2005 10:08:51 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Conservative til I die

Quite pious of them, isn't it? Seems they should be more concerned with their own salvation.


54 posted on 12/20/2005 10:14:07 PM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: highlander_UW

"I'm a saint...at least according to scripture."

Me too! Saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ!


55 posted on 12/20/2005 10:15:49 PM PST by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: FFIGHTER
Quite pious of them, isn't it? Seems they should be more concerned with their own salvation.

If you disagree with scripture that is your prerogative. But you might consider what sort of evidence of your own piety your oblique insults presents.

56 posted on 12/20/2005 10:23:23 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Aussie Dasher

BTTT!


57 posted on 12/20/2005 10:53:32 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I nominate Martin Luther...


58 posted on 12/20/2005 10:55:55 PM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: knarf
And we are not all God's children.

Are you sure about that?

John 1:11&12

...Has nothing to do with "we are not all God's children".

59 posted on 12/20/2005 11:31:21 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: knarf

OK, well you are correct. I also came across Colossians 1:16, John 11:52, Romans 8:14-17, 1 John 3:1-10, Ephesians 1:5, Ephesians 2:3, Romans 9:8, James 4:4, 1 John 3:8, John 8:43-44, Galatians 3:26, and Galatians 4:5-6.


60 posted on 12/20/2005 11:45:06 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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