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To: Steve_Seattle

It was a sports arena, but I doubt if 40,000 worshipers show up on Sunday.


54 posted on 12/20/2005 4:30:18 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: csmusaret
It was a sports arena, but I doubt if 40,000 worshipers show up on Sunday.

Yes they do.

57 posted on 12/20/2005 4:31:49 PM PST by Always Right
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‘Discover the Champion in You’ – Lakewood’s Gospel of Greed

Under the new leadership of Joel Osteen, son of the late founder, John, Lakewood Church has grown in church attendance, tithes and television markets. It has also provided numerous benefits to Joel, including a $1 ¼ million dollar home. [Source: http://north-valley.com/realestate_board/messages/157.html ]

One can only imagine the number of servants needed to keep this busy, professional, prosperous, religious household of four afloat and fed. One can also only imagine the budget needed to keep the Osteens cloaked in Neiman Marcus’ finest.

Never short on million-dollar smiles and warm, humorous anecdotes, many about ‘Daddy,’ Senior Pastor Joel, an Oral Roberts University dropout, exudes confidence and success. Certainly, in worldly terms, he has achieved this at the young age of 39, thanks to the multitudes of deceived tithing Lakewood churchgoers. In what is no less than a meteoric rise to prominence, Joel Osteen has invented an extremely lucrative career as a ‘Christian’ Motivational Speaker, having worked diligently for years behind the scenes supervising the television production of his father’s services. Awarding himself the title of pastor, ‘one who feeds his flock,’ Joel reluctantly took the torch passed to him by his dying father. Today, boosted by his sudden and unexpected success, a confident Pastor Joel urges his disciples to discover the champion in you, teaching them weekly how they, too, can achieve their dreams and hearts’ desires. God wants to reward his congregation and viewers abundantly, he tells them, if only they would use the principles the Word-Faith Teachers have discovered to tap into this divine treasure trove.


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The latest "star" among the Christian world is Joel Osteen, pastor of nondenominational Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. Osteen claims the nation’s largest congregation with over 30,000 members. Lakewood recently purchased the colossal Compaq Center, formerly home of the NBA’s Houston Rockets. After a whopping $95 million in renovations, the Compaq Center now houses Osteen’s empire called Lakewood Church. Osteen continually sells out huge arenas (at $10 a ticket) across the country. (on ebay Osteen’s tickets list for over $100—can you say $ch-ching$?) New York Times (July 18, 2005) reports Lakewood’s 2004 revenue’s of $55 million. Osteen’s book of human-potential, self-esteem, "feel good," self-help-guide titled, Your Best Life Now: Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential, ranks number one on the prestigious "New York Times" best-seller list. Wxyz.com writes of Osteen’s enormous popularity, "In the world of religion, he’s achieved the status of a rock star. . ." Clearly, Mr. Osteen wears the coveted crown prince of the Christian kingdom.


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church encourages Christians to ‘Sponsor-A-Seat’ in the nearly 18,000 seat Center at a cost of $2,500 per to pay for the rebuilding effort


Joel & Victoria Osteen standing beside $2,500 theater seat.

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It follows that a church of Lakewood's size draws in an enormous amount of income. As a church and a registered nonprofit, it doesn't have to reveal its budget. But public records show Joel and Victoria Osteen's home in Tanglewood is worth more than $1 million --

And when it came time to hire a lobbyist, Lakewood settled for no less than one of the best: Dave Walden, right-hand man for former mayor Bob Lanier.

The straight-shooting Walden, who smokes Marlboros and swears freely, might have seemed like an odd choice at first for a bunch of Christians. After all, when asked if he goes to church, Walden answers bluntly, "I don't like the circus."






105 posted on 12/20/2005 4:46:33 PM PST by kcvl
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To: csmusaret

Guess again.


106 posted on 12/20/2005 4:46:50 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: csmusaret
It was a sports arena, but I doubt if 40,000 worshipers show up on Sunday.

They have more than one service on Sunday.

367 posted on 12/20/2005 6:37:31 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: csmusaret
... I doubt if 40,000 worshipers show up on Sunday.

basis that assumption i'd counsel you not to take up gambling unless the idea of dying penniless appeals to you.

528 posted on 12/20/2005 11:32:47 PM PST by HKMk23 (-- speechless --)
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To: csmusaret
It was a sports arena, but I doubt if 40,000 worshipers show up on Sunday.

I have read previously that this church conducts 4 services each weekend (Sat-2/Sun-2)...one of them in Spanish.

With 11-15K/service...that 40K figure can easily be reached

662 posted on 12/21/2005 12:00:34 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: csmusaret

I've watched his program a number of times and that place is packed. I don't doubt that there are 40,000 there. He may also have several services a week. These mega-churches often do.


684 posted on 12/21/2005 5:29:26 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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