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To: Onelifetogive
Which has always been the case, but which is kind of irrelevant.

People who hate the O'Steens (he isn't my favorite), especially Christians, LOVE this stuff, because it seems to bolster their own little denominational views.

I would remind all Christians of Gamaliel's advice when it came to Paul and the early Christians: (Acts 5:33-39), when he said basically if someone is not of God, it will be clear enough, and their work will come to nothing, but if they are of God, "You cannot overthrow it---lest you even be found to fight against God."

If a particular minister/ministry's style isn't your cup of tea, SHUT UP and go somewhere else. God has all sorts of different ministers and ministry gifts, because people are different, and the people who like quiet kneeling are not going to be reached by people who like shouting and praise; and those who like music won't be reached by those who like contemplation.

22 posted on 12/21/2005 7:25:56 AM PST by LS
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To: LS
If a particular minister/ministry's style isn't your cup of tea, SHUT UP and go somewhere else.

I have no problem with this guy or his style or ministry. I was making the point that Christianity is full of people who regularly need grace and forgiveness...

BTW, the world is also full of people needing grace and forgiveness, but not receiving it...

25 posted on 12/21/2005 7:32:22 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: LS

Got to admit, Joel has been drawing the people to Christ. The church has like quadrupled membership since his daddy died, and it wasn't small to begin with, or I should say at that time.


33 posted on 12/21/2005 7:49:57 AM PST by ichabod1 (Sic Omnia Gloria Fugit)
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To: LS

>>If a particular minister/ministry's style isn't your cup of tea, SHUT UP and go somewhere else. God has all sorts of different ministers and ministry gifts, because people are different, and the people who like quiet kneeling are not going to be reached by people who like shouting and praise; and those who like music won't be reached by those who like contemplation.<<

While the main jist of your post is true - what happens when preachers are not preaching sound doctrine?

In a lot of cases, the criticism goes far beyond worship styles. A lot of it is centered around preaching that is simply non-Biblical. Man-pleasing, watered-down, "I'm ok - you're ok" heresy.

At that point, Christians have an obligation to expose false teachers and denounce their work.


61 posted on 12/21/2005 8:03:52 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Hail Him who saved you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of All")
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