As a devout believer, I would have to say that the number one problem in Christianity today is Christians.....
I agree.
Everyone has bad days don't you think?
True :(
People who hate the O'Steens (he isn't my favorite), especially Christians, LOVE this stuff, because it seems to bolster their own little denominational views.
I would remind all Christians of Gamaliel's advice when it came to Paul and the early Christians: (Acts 5:33-39), when he said basically if someone is not of God, it will be clear enough, and their work will come to nothing, but if they are of God, "You cannot overthrow it---lest you even be found to fight against God."
If a particular minister/ministry's style isn't your cup of tea, SHUT UP and go somewhere else. God has all sorts of different ministers and ministry gifts, because people are different, and the people who like quiet kneeling are not going to be reached by people who like shouting and praise; and those who like music won't be reached by those who like contemplation.
Join a church that's perfect, and as soon as you get there it won't be perfect anymore.
Steele seems to be the only person quoted who says Victoria got abusive. Other passengers said Joel was professional, and did not corraberate the statements of Steele.
AMEN
"As a devout believer...."
That always makes an alarm sound in my mind.
Steele said Victoria Osteen was upset about liquid on her pull-down tray and asked a flight attendant to have it cleaned. When the attendant, who was carrying paperwork to the cockpit, told her she couldn't do it immediately, Osteen replied, "Fine, get me a stewardess who can," Steele said.
Spoiled brat. Did it ever occur to her to pull a Kleenex out of her purse clean it up herself. After all, "the Lord helps those who help themselves" Or does she just think that means "help herself to the collection plate!?"