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("What if" in History - No. 3) June 1, 1944: NEW YORK TIMES breaks OPERATION OVERLORD
DFU "what if" in history | June 1, 1944 | Jonathon Risen (fictitious name)

Posted on 12/26/2005 7:15:58 PM PST by doug from upland

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To: Ole Okie

Patriotism certainly has changed in 60 years.


21 posted on 12/26/2005 8:10:40 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland
If I can add to your satire:

"This just in: The Times has learned that General Patton's First Army Group, long expected to lead the Allied invasion across the English Channel to Pas-de-Calais, does not exist and may be an elaborate deception. Congressional Democrats aware of this information are promising swift hearings to get to the bottom of this misinformation, which may include paying the media to place false stories aimed at confusing the enemy. Remember for all your late breaking war disinformation, turn to the New York Times."

22 posted on 12/26/2005 8:14:09 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: Ole Okie
Ole Okie wrote: Doug, one addition:

Aides to Gen. Eisenhower told the Times anonymously that Gen. Eisenhower has no exit strategy, a fatal flaw in Overlord. Some retired military men (one, at least, a marine who won medals in the First World War) suggest that Gen. Eisenhower should call off the invasion because it may lead to terrible losses among the Allied troops.

*snip*

General Patton is rumored to have snorted "Montgomery has no exit strategy, either".

There is substantial feeling in the Congress, particularly among some who served valorously with the AEF in the First World War, that the troops should be brought home. FDR is being blamed for many of the losses, along with Winston Churchill.

There's no question that the entry into WW II was done under false pretenses. Japan never threatened the US mainland; Germany never declared war on the US.

The war was about US commercial interests. The League of Nations did not endorse the war. Nor did the Mufti of Jerusalem, Pierre Laval, Father Coughlan or Tokyo Rose. The war was illegitimate and illegal.

23 posted on 12/26/2005 8:14:24 PM PST by JBGUSA (If it's us or them, I choose us.)
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To: doug from upland

Hitler probably wouldn't have believed it anyway. Everybody knows the NYT always lies.


24 posted on 12/26/2005 8:15:44 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: doug from upland

You will appreciate the fact that at least this time I am awake :) Good one, doug!


25 posted on 12/26/2005 8:20:07 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: doug from upland

Just a prediction, but one day, I think some "anonymous source" will gleefully have a field day passing on bogus misinformation to the NYT/Washington Post/LA Times, hopefully putting the final nail in the their coffin of credibility. (And no, it won't be a traitor like Joe Wilson).


26 posted on 12/26/2005 8:20:34 PM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: sageb1

You are awake indeed. :)


27 posted on 12/26/2005 8:26:39 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland
Seize NY Times lock the homo's up.
28 posted on 12/26/2005 9:24:31 PM PST by boomop1
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To: doug from upland
New York Times Headlines: June 7, 1944:

****OPERATION OVERLORD maims and kills French children.
****Democrat Congressmen say "No Blood for Frog Legs".
****Gold Star Mother demands an end to the war and a second meeting with FDR.
****FBI has been wiretapping Nazi spies in U.S. without a court order.

29 posted on 12/26/2005 9:44:10 PM PST by Polybius
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To: khnyny

"Just a prediction, but one day, I think some "anonymous source" will gleefully have a field day passing on bogus misinformation to the NYT/Washington Post/LA Times, hopefully putting the final nail in the their coffin of credibility."




IMHO, that day has already come and gone with the NSA "Scandal"..........and the NYT did it to themselves.


30 posted on 12/26/2005 10:41:07 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: doug from upland
The LibIdiot media would give the NYT many awards at many dinners, while the Nazi's continued their spread of terror.
31 posted on 12/27/2005 1:17:38 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the treasonous and immoral Democrats!)
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To: doug from upland

On the eve of the invasion of Sicily, Dwight Eisenhower actually told a roomful of correspondents the particulars of the invasion. He said that he wanted them to have a FEEL for the pressures that he was undergoing with his grave responsibilities to control the release of critical information. The main difference between then and now is the fact that he knew that they were all, to a man, American patriots first and reporters second.


32 posted on 12/27/2005 7:46:15 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank

Absolutely. It was a different time. That was evident when newsrooms did not want to display the flag after 9/11.


33 posted on 12/27/2005 7:48:52 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland

So true. Bye the way, he made no attempt to sequester them and they had full access to their wire services.


34 posted on 12/27/2005 7:51:26 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank

Thanks for the anecdote. I didn't know that. Joe Wilson or James Risen would have had quite an opportunity.


35 posted on 12/27/2005 7:54:56 PM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: doug from upland

You're welcome. Check out Carlo De'Estes book on Sicily, Can't remember the title though.


36 posted on 12/27/2005 9:46:07 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: doug from upland

bringing this back


37 posted on 06/06/2017 12:47:28 PM PDT by doug from upland (Hey, traitor Democrats. I have a tree. I'm sure another FReeper has a rope.)
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