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Fuente Magna (The Rosetta Stone Of The Americas)
Geocities ^ | 11-5-2002 | J M Allen

Posted on 01/03/2006 6:26:08 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 01/03/2006 6:26:12 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv; RightWhale

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/03/2006 6:27:01 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The Fuentes Magna?


3 posted on 01/03/2006 6:31:06 PM PST by FReepaholic (Admitted FReepaholic since 1998.)
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To: blam

It seems we are being flooded with new discoveries. This one sounds like it is going to change the rules.


4 posted on 01/03/2006 6:36:33 PM PST by winodog
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To: tscislaw
Fuente Magna and the Monolith of Pokotia

A large stone vessel, resembling a libation bowl, and now known as the Fuente Magna, was originally discovered in a rather casual fashion by a country peasant from the ex-hacienda CHUA, property of the Manjon family situated in the surrounding areas of Lake Titicaca about 75/80 km from the city of La Paz.

The site where it was found has not been subject to investigation until recently. The Fuente Magna has not been shown in Bolivia until year 2000. It was considered false, until we began the investigations.

The Fuente Magna was found The piece in question is a little out of place. It is beautifully engraved in chestnut-brown both inside and out. It reveals zoological motifs and anthropomorphic characters within.

Fuente Magna - Rosetta Stone of the Americas.

In 1958/60 Don Max Portugal Zamora, a Bolivian archaeologist, learned of it's existence Pastor Manjon. Mr. Portugal "baptized" the site with the name it bears today, "Fuente Magna"--in our view an accurate assessment. Instantly it's rescuing was studiously embarked upon. Through the mediation and negotiation of General Armando Escobar Uria property was swapped for another parcel in the neighborhood of Sopocachi.

Safely under the protection of the honorable, municipal, mayoralty Mr. Portugal began to restore it by applying cement to the parts that showed chipping and deterioration--minor repairs for effect, in our view. He lost no time in attempting to decipher the writting inside the object turning to the texts known as "Qellga Llippichi" one of those interpreted by Don Franz Tamayo. He also consulted a publication by our illustrious friend, Dr. Dick Edgar Ibarra Grasso, entitled "Indigenous Andean Writing" (HAM La Paz 1953), it ends as you might expect (fruitless). The limits of his honest efforts. The writing is undoubted from the Old World.

Hebraic--from the sinaitic appearance influenced by cuneiform, or simply cuneiform of possible Sumero-Akkadian origins, this being the take-off point on which we announced our extraordinary discovery. Two mayors (local guys) don Armando Escobar Uria and Don Mario Mercado Vaca Guzman have been looking after our investigation until very recently with many restrictions since we cannot count on the support of the state.

Nevertheless, work has continued on what we call the "Rosetta Stone of the Americas", for lack of a better name. If our method of investigation holds up several things are worthy of note:

We are dealing with an object which was made in keeping with Mesopotamian tradition.

It contains two texts, one in cuneiform and another Semitic language of possible Sinaitic extraction cuneiform influences.

According to the symbols used one would be before an object that evidently shows itself to be from the transitional period between ideographical writing and cuneiform.

Chronologically, this leads us to the 3500/3000 B.C., the Sumerian/Akkadian period.

5 posted on 01/03/2006 6:38:39 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
When an author can't get a simple fact right, like the difference between a "reed" and a "rod" in modern measurement, I tend to lose interest and to question more esoteric facts about which I know a lot less...

In the modern world, the "rod" is still a recognized unit of land measurement, being used extensively in the 19th and early 20th century, but I have never heard of a "reed", even by reference.

6 posted on 01/03/2006 6:45:47 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: winodog

I doubt it. There is too much at stake for the scientists who make their money off older theories. They have published books and get paid to teach what they do. They always fight new information that may discredit their dissertation.


7 posted on 01/03/2006 6:49:06 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: blam
The provenance of this artifact has been seriously compromised. When exactly it was found is not mentioned; all we know is that it was pre-1958. Establishing age by inference is probably the wildest varying method in the universe. It could end up being 100 years old, or 100,000. Nothing in the article suggests any serious attempts at truly scientific dating, so that aspect is inconclusive.

Finally, why hasn't the "proto-cuneiform" been totally photographed or documented by transcription?

All is not well with this Fuente Magna.

8 posted on 01/03/2006 6:54:52 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: satchmodog9

Either very interesting or very, very wrong. Likely the latter.


9 posted on 01/03/2006 6:57:30 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: blam

Maybe we got the story of Atlantis backward. Remember that Bolivia is at a high altitude compared to sea level.

Perhaps Atlantis (Bolivia) didn't sink--but the country around it did!

Or maybe Atlantis/Bolivia rose instead of sinking.

Or maybe...


10 posted on 01/03/2006 7:09:33 PM PST by wildbill
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To get an "Atlantean" city all you need is the construction of a townsite in a lake-bed that floods regularly. Happens all the time (SEE: Mexico City, Venice).

What doesn't happen all the time are the pictographs drawn in caves and on the undersides of cliffs in Samiland in Finland. These items date back to 7500 BC. Among other things, you can clearly understand some of the stories they tell and notice that much of the material shows up in the earliest Sumerian stories millenia later.

Even the aboriginal languages there are cognates of ancient Sumerian.

The pictographs are still older than anything these guys have found in the Americas, or even the Middle-East, China, Egypt, North Africa, or just about anywhere else than the extreme North Coast of Europe~!

11 posted on 01/03/2006 7:17:40 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: blam

Alas, we had a topic about this, just saw it this morning while cruisin' the keyword "PERU" here on FR. I'm inclined to believe those marks on the item are representations of something akin to quipu. Let's see...

The Monolith of Pokotia (Sumerian Language etched on Ancient Mesopotamian Items)!
Bernardo Biadós Yacovazzo & Freddy Arce, | FR Post 10-19-2002
Posted on 10/19/2002 10:28:48 AM PDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/772170/posts


12 posted on 01/03/2006 11:38:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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Thanks Blam.

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13 posted on 01/03/2006 11:41:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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To: blam

There are 5000 year old Egyptian hieroglyphs in the Australian outback.


14 posted on 01/04/2006 10:30:30 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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"There are 5000 year old Egyptian hieroglyphs in the Australian outback."

Ancient Egypt Link With Australia

"The hieroglyphs tell the tale of early Egyptian explorers, injured and stranded, in ancient Australia. The discovery centres around a most unusual set of rock carvings found in the National Park forest of the Hunter Valley, 100 km north of Sydney."

15 posted on 01/04/2006 10:59:00 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Can you read that? To me it has a lot of the style of hieroglyphs, but there is too much modern symbology in it. I think it is of recent origin.


16 posted on 01/04/2006 11:08:46 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale
"Can you read that? "

No.

17 posted on 01/04/2006 11:54:20 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

It's easy to read. Unfortunately you would have to know the language, but if you did already know the language there would be no problem. Double unfortunate--the symbols in this display bear little resemblance to the phonetic characters of real hieroglyphs.


18 posted on 01/04/2006 11:59:59 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: blam; martin_fierro

I prefer the Fuente Opus X.


19 posted on 01/04/2006 12:02:05 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: blam

bump


20 posted on 01/04/2006 12:06:55 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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