Posted on 01/06/2006 5:43:18 AM PST by Tolik
Let me know if you want in or out.
Links: FR Index of his articles: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson
His website: http://victorhanson.com/ NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp
Brillant analysis by VDH..spot on...what we may also see happening int he near future is a mass exodus by millions of young people..from all European countries....as the onerous cost of the entitlements implodes economies..and who will benefit from this??..Canada, Australia, and the US..
I have no great love for Europe. Never been, never will. I don't hate Europeans, some are jerks, most aren't, the same as anywhere else. My ancestors were kicked out of most of Western Europe, and I supose I should be grateful for that, but my reason for wanting to save Europe from Islam is strictly practical. Fight there, or fight it here, just like the 1940's and the 1980's.
VDH writes: Either your economy will reform, your populace multiply, and your citizenry defend itself, or not. And if not, then Europe as we have known it will pass away — to the great joy of the Islamists but to the terrible sorrow of America.
I think they have chosen "or not" and I think they are swirling down the toilet bowl.
But times change. Enemies of old (Japan), turn into friends today. I am sorry to see Old Europe die but we need to find new friends (see India).
There is a reason that my great grandfather fled Europe at the tender age of 14. I suspect that many of the remaining Europeans will also flee, and not a few will fight, in the years to come.
Don't write Europe off yet, but it will be dark times ahead.
WOW! One of my favorite writers of all time! I hope some of our neighbors and friends actually read this...we live in Germany!
My native born German Brother - in - Law can't wait to get the heck out of Germany and over here. The interesting thing to me is that my wife's sister (the native american) is the one that is more reluctant to come here. She is somewhat a Liberal Twit, but I can at least talk to her; we have civil conversations even involving politics. My brother will probabbly make a great (if not better) Texan and a fine American.
They should be making their permanent move this spring - he just got approved for his resident Visa and is looking forward to becoming naturalized. As for my sister, she acknowledges that Texas is in better shape than CA and is putting together the correlation between prevailing politics in those states, so I have some hope for her eventual turning away from the dark side.
well - one did.
France has shown recently that it has no qualms about beginning its own, assisted-suicide.
Fantastic piece...........made my day. Thanks.
I love his writing. However, some part of me wishes he would just accept the fact that Europe is a lost cause. We have to stop pining for Churchill, Thatcher and Kohl - they are not coming back to lead the continent back to its feet. Instead, we need to focus on (1) making sure the same rapid end-stage decline doesn't happen here, and (2) preparing a welcome for like-minded Euro refugees who will want to escape to the US in the coming decade.
No, the Democrats won't let them in unless they are from the Third World and there is a reasonable chance they can be converted into Democrat voters at some point...pre- or post-achievement of citizenship. ;)
...and there's not much wow's from my side.
This guy paints europe anti america and pro - terror and claims to cry the beloved continent.
Beloved hu ?
He doesn't welcome the european affinity of anglo american culture - he calls it slavish.
What is slavish about me favouring jazz, coke and blue jeans ? It's good stuff.
What does he want - gratitude because your grandpa won WWII ?
Tell you what ... I wake up often enough feeling grateful to be in germany living here as it is today - relatively free and independant. I know many GIs lost their lives so history could take this path. My deepest simpathy for those who suffered under the nazi regime in which way ever.
But freedom and prosperity didn't come as a gift to germany - we sure as hell paid for it and worked our asses of. The Marshall Plan was an investment and it paid of big time for the US as well as for us. Certainly things didn't work well for the other winner of WWII - the soviet union.
And if somebody has won the cold war then it's germany - now sited in the center of a new europe.
I am not trying to burry 2500 years of good history and I am aware of the moral and political values europe created.
Who's that guy insinuating this ?
You guys are invited to be partners in the future as you where in the past and are in present times. Partners on eye level as the author claims to want.
I just think that's exactly what this guy is affraid of.
Whish you all a nice weekend.
[Although we Americans think the European Union is a flawed notion and will not survive to fulfill its present aspirations, we hope in some strange way that it does — for both our sakes of having a proud partner in a more dangerous world to come rather than an angry and envious inferior, nursing past glories while blaming others for self-inflicted wounds of the present.]
What a turn. Very creative writing across the whole piece. The sugar brings the reader to the palm only to be slapped, scolded, educated and sent away to reform with a swift pat on the but.
Christopher Hitchens used to be my favorite essayist. Victor David Hanson is LIGHT YEARS ahead of him. Every article I read of his I have to save on my hard drive. Absomutely amazing.
I would hope that this piece by VDH would be widely circulated in western Europe and that it be properly understood there. Eastern Europe is a different matter. I visit Poland twice a year, and in no way is Poland about to expire.
"You guys are invited to be partners in the future as you where in the past and are in present times. Partners on eye level as the author claims to want."
I wish you the best. Germany will need level headed and forward looking people in the years ahead. The mere fact that you are participating in this forum places you in the upper percentile.
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