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Civil war erupts over Confederate handbags
DFW ^ | January 6, 2006 | JIM DOUGLAS

Posted on 01/06/2006 12:05:39 PM PST by stainlessbanner

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To: dinoparty

This is not about the Civil War but a purse! I have seen worse pictures on purses. They just have to complain about something. If they had a picture of Che ? on them, no one would have said a word.


161 posted on 01/06/2006 1:31:30 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
The War of Southern Independence was a war that was fought for reasons that stretched back to the nullification crisis of 1832, it stemmed directly from a chain of events that began with Calhoun's resignation.

Hmmm. I suppose you wouldn't want to mention the 1833 compromise bill on the tariff proposed by Clay, signed by Jackson, and supported by Calhoun. But for goodness sake, don't mention the Dred Scott decision? John Brown? Popular Soverignty> The Kansas-Nebraska bill? The uproar over whether Kansas was going to entered as a slave or as a free state? Yeah, you better not mention any of that, because if you do, you're earlier statement that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery will be shown to be clearly delusional.

Sure the tariffs were a hot-button issue and I would grant that they added fuel to the conflict; but to say that the issue of slavery was not a factor in the Civil War just make you look silly.

162 posted on 01/06/2006 1:31:34 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: wallcrawlr

Lee's actions involved attacking SOLDIERS.

Sherman's explicitly involved attacking CITIZENS.

Sherman was a terrorist.


163 posted on 01/06/2006 1:31:47 PM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: stainlessbanner
Here's the answer, from Burleson ISD spokesman Richard Crummel: "It's a violation of the dress code," he said. "We don't want students to wear anything that might cause a disruption, and that symbol has done that in the past."

So's the union flag. When are we getting rid of that?

164 posted on 01/06/2006 1:31:50 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Centurion2000

However, you can't deny that the rebel flag has been taken over by some pretty creepy racist elements in the 20th century. Most people associate it with these elements, not with the civil war.

Does that mean that the assuming masses should therefore dictate what symbols the rest of the people can use? History is complex and symbols have various meanings at different times. Just because some group hijacks the meaning of a symbol doesn't make it illegal to use. Otherwise Buddhists wouldn't be able to use the swastika or they would be accused of "hate crimes". I say let free speech rule.


165 posted on 01/06/2006 1:32:17 PM PST by old republic
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To: My2Cents
Had the confederates taken a stand for the defense of states' rights on some other issue besides slavery, they may have had a defensible point.

Show me a historical factual quote of a Southern diplomat stating that the only reason their state was voting for succession was because of slavery....please...

166 posted on 01/06/2006 1:32:28 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: My2Cents
"Were you typing this as you were hiding out in your bunker? Get a frickin' life."

I have a great life and cherishing my heritage is a major part of it. You should be so lucky!

167 posted on 01/06/2006 1:32:31 PM PST by varina davis
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To: Froufrou; blaquebyrd

Oops, sorry! I guess you meant that post to go to blaquebyrd...


168 posted on 01/06/2006 1:32:33 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: tkathy

next time...close your mouth before inserting your foot


169 posted on 01/06/2006 1:32:34 PM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: wallcrawlr

Outstanding. Thanks for posting.


170 posted on 01/06/2006 1:32:35 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Jaded

Yes, and how tragic that poor farmers would be roped into defense of what amounted to a civil insurrection designed to perpetuate the plantation culture.


171 posted on 01/06/2006 1:33:47 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Blzbba

By your logic, Eisenhower was a terrorist for the firebombing of Berlin.


172 posted on 01/06/2006 1:34:41 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: Blzbba

173 posted on 01/06/2006 1:35:04 PM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: My2Cents

"By your logic, Eisenhower was a terrorist for the firebombing of Berlin."


Did Ike intentionally target citizens or target German factories?


174 posted on 01/06/2006 1:36:17 PM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: silentreignofheros

I did for one summer or fall and boy, that was enough for me. I do not want to do that ever again! One hundred pounds is a lot of cotton.


175 posted on 01/06/2006 1:36:40 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: stainlessbanner
The confederate flag has nothing to do with Heritage.

Schools should be allowed to limit what students display on their clothing or handbags.

There is nothing about a confederate flag that should prevent anyone from displaying it if they so choose.

176 posted on 01/06/2006 1:37:40 PM PST by Casloy
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To: sandbar

I have several ancestors who fought for that flag, too. One had a bad foot so he could not fight but he did his part by making shoes for the soldiers.


177 posted on 01/06/2006 1:38:11 PM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: Getsmart64
Show me a historical factual quote of a Southern diplomat stating that the only reason their state was voting for succession was because of slavery....please...

Show me a historical factual quote in which Lincoln states that he wants to outlaw slavery in the states. The most he wanted to do in 1860 was to limit its spread to the territories. He made a very fine legal case for his position in the 1860 speech at Cooper Union. But territories are not states and thus why should say, South Carolina, care whether or not there are slaveholders in the western territories if they were only concerned about state's rights?

178 posted on 01/06/2006 1:38:15 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: pbrown

Are you referring to the "War of Northern Agression"?


179 posted on 01/06/2006 1:38:34 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: CharacterCounts

http://165.29.91.7/classes/humanities/amstud/97-98/weapons/thesis1.htm


180 posted on 01/06/2006 1:38:40 PM PST by Froufrou
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