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To: groanup
I haven't seen such drumbeat and wouldn't condone it. What master plan? I've not seen such posts.

You must not read enough of these threads. How often have I read that the was all about oppressing the south? That Lincoln maneuvered the south into firing at Sumter to that he could grab power? Here, in post #111 of this thread, is a typical example: "It was a war of envy, a war to increase federal power (which had it's roots in Jacksonianism) and a war to protect northern industry at the expense of Southern industy."

Then, of course, there's Watie's frequent allusion to the Union soldiers as "the filth that flowed from the north"

448 posted on 01/11/2006 3:26:18 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth
I think post number 111 is pointing out what I started pointing out on these threads 4 years ago (yes I have been on the WBTS threads that long), and that is, that the North didn't fight to free slaves, far from it. There were a handful of abolitionists in New England as far as I can tell and that was about it.

The North fought to preserve the Union (and tariffs btw) while the South fought for free and independent states. Slavery was an issue but not the only issue. The quotes and actions of Southerners, including generals and commoners are peppered with pro slavery diction. But if you look long enough you'll also find anti slavers among those dedicated to fighting the North (Lee, Hampton). If slavery was such an issue then those leaders who welcomed the end of it would have been pariahs and such statements would have been blasphemy.

Sorta like me saying "well, Ted Kennedy isn't so bad".

450 posted on 01/11/2006 3:39:46 PM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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