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New York City Starts To Monitor Diabetics
WP ^ | Jan. 11, 2006 | Rob Stein

Posted on 01/10/2006 8:42:26 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Caramelgal

HIPAA was sold as privacy protection, but it really isn't.

It just makes it harder for you to give information you want to give to people you want to give it to.


21 posted on 01/10/2006 9:04:12 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: All

This is much worse than I thought!!!!

Read this additional article with much more detail. THis is scary and I am not just "fearmongering".

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"According to early reports, individuals will receive a letter from the health department notifying them if their blood sugar level exceeds a certain predetermined level, along with educational and resource materials. Physicians will receive a quarterly report of their patients stratified by glycemic control as well as recommendations for managing patients with diabetes.

The plan seems overly obtrusive to some medical privacy advocates. They question how individuals will benefit from city or state knowledge that they are diabetic? They also say that patient-physician confidentiality will be compromised, and the city will become a de facto case manager for such newly discovered individuals. "



Should Uncle Sam monitor health?
Tue 10 Jan 2006 07:10 AM CST

http://www.mydna.com/resources/news/news_20060110_diabetes_mandatory_survelliance.html


22 posted on 01/10/2006 9:09:10 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
"Government concern often shifts to government coercion," Mariner said. "Today we're telling people what you should do voluntarily. Tomorrow it may be we're telling you what to do or you'll be penalized."

You mean like seat belts, motcycle helmets, bicycle helmets, child safety seats, kids in the back seat, smoke alarms, locking your car, smoking...

What's next? Mandatory condom use, or mandatory brushing & flossing; which one comes first?

23 posted on 01/10/2006 9:24:51 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mad-Mo! Allah bin Satan commands ye: Bow to him 5 times/day: Head down, @ss-up, and fart at Heaven!)
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To: FairOpinion

If you're not hyperglycemic then you have nothing to worry about.


Wait, that didn't sound right. I think I got my cliche mixed up.


24 posted on 01/10/2006 9:27:44 PM PST by kenth (Schrödinger's dog is both happy and sad.)
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To: FairOpinion

I have a 6 year old granddaughter with diabetes...and I am appalled that a CITY feels they have the right to anyone's blood sugar readings...

This is ridiculous...diabetes is not contagious...no problem of epidemic.

WTH are these people thinking??


25 posted on 01/10/2006 9:34:08 PM PST by Txsleuth (Become a $ - day Donor.----Less than a Starbuck's coffee!!)
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To: FairOpinion

Of course, reporting communicable diseases by the patient's name makes sense! But HIV/AIDS had been an exception (unlike other STDs) for ~20 years. That's why I was surprised that NYC now requires reporting it by patient name.


26 posted on 01/10/2006 9:34:16 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Txsleuth

"WTH are these people thinking??"


That government knows better what's good for the patients, than the doctors.

They want us all to be zombies/slaves (pick one), doing exactly what "Big Daddy Government" tells us to do, for our own good.


27 posted on 01/10/2006 9:41:13 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Txsleuth

I feel for your granddaughter...our free society is going down the drain. I am Type 1 diabetic..but I am 65 and very glad to be old and on my way out of this sick society. And idiot liberals are praising the rump-ranger movie...sick,sick.
Watching the stupid liberals question Judge Alito is enough to make one puke. How did these idiots ( Teddy the Swimmer, Chuckie Cheese and Plugz Biden) ever get elected??


28 posted on 01/10/2006 9:43:39 PM PST by clooney4824
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To: FairOpinion

I am not libertarian...so I see some good that government can do...but, jeez louise...this is total invasion of privacy.

I would think that New York City has enough to worry about, without worrying about the blood sugar count of diabetics...


29 posted on 01/10/2006 9:45:14 PM PST by Txsleuth (Become a $ - day Donor.----Less than a Starbuck's coffee!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Some public health experts, ethicists and privacy advocates, however, say that the initiative raises serious concerns about confidentiality and is an alarming government intrusion into people's medical care.

This is WAAAAAY out of line. We don't need more nanny state interference. I wish the government would stop trying to protect us from ourselves.

30 posted on 01/10/2006 9:45:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: clooney4824

I marvel everyday that people are stupid enough to keep electing these people over and over again...

and Kennedy fancies himself as an advocate for the sick and uninsured...shoot..what an idiot.


31 posted on 01/10/2006 9:50:55 PM PST by Txsleuth (Become a $ - day Donor.----Less than a Starbuck's coffee!!)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
You know I am thinking right now of when the government let men die of syphillis so that they could study the effects on the mens bodies. They even refused treatment using penicillin to these men. I wonder if diabetics might be treated in the same way.

Except that they already *know* what diabetes does to people's bodies. It damages their circulation, affects their major organs, can lead to strokes, heart attacks, amputations, blindness, etc.

Effects vary from case to case but it is well known what the body does. Why study it untreated?

32 posted on 01/10/2006 9:52:35 PM PST by Tall_Texan (TEXAS LONGHORNS - 2005 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion; YoungKentuckyConservative; Txsleuth; metmom

While I think the names of diabetics who are not on any public assistance should be withheld from this reporting, the reality in NYC is that the overwhelming majority of diabetics are being treated at taxpayer expense, and quite a lot of them after a lifetime on food stamps and public housing subsidies and various other brands of "welfare". The expense of treating diabetes (most of which is self-inflicted), and complications thereof, and related disability payments, is simply colossal. As long as taxpayers are being forced to foot the bill, the recipients of the handouts are in no position to be yelling "none of your business".

I hope this reporting is used to deny further treatment to people who are simply refusing to cooperate in their own treatment. There are way too many welfare-dependent diabetics in NYC (and elsewhere) who don't bother to monitor or control their blood sugar on a regular basis, and then expect unlimited amounts of money to be spent on dialysis, ophthalmic surgery, etc. that wouldn't have been needed if they'd done what their doctor told them to do. Premature blindness, amputations, etc. put people out of work (if they were even working to begin with) and on full-blown disability payments, and once again, the taxpayer is just supposed to pay the tab, no questions asked.

If it was up to me, we would end all taxpayer-funded medical care tomorrow, and then people's blood sugar levels would be their own business. Many people would also figure out how not to get diabetes in the first place, if they knew they couldn't send the bill for treatment to the taxpayers.


33 posted on 01/10/2006 10:07:20 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: traviskicks

Thanks fot the link.


34 posted on 01/10/2006 10:19:31 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: FairOpinion

Thanks for the ping.


35 posted on 01/10/2006 10:20:20 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Mo1
Ohh, puh-lease!

UpChuckie is to privacy rights as any ordinary Marxist is to private property rights.

Oh, wait a minute...he **is** a Marxist, and considerably more boring than most.

I apologise for having restated the obvious and incontrovertible.

36 posted on 01/10/2006 10:21:33 PM PST by SAJ
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Your last sentence is beyond stupid....bloviating by an uninformed,ignorant,stupid,dumb idiot. Guess that covers it. Hope you become a Type 1 diabetic tomorrow,dummy.


37 posted on 01/10/2006 10:25:58 PM PST by clooney4824
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To: FairOpinion

DAMN...!! I had to get a disease that doesn't have civil rights. Maybe the libs would stand up for me if I could show I contracted it from an overseas telephone call, and that's how the government found out about it?


38 posted on 01/10/2006 10:32:49 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I hadn't thought of that angle. Where we used to live, the welfare population was *extrememly* overweight and based on what I saw them buy in the grocery store, they didn't do much to control their diet. I agree that those on public assistance should be accountable for what they are receiving from the state. I hate welfare to begin with but to see the attitude that they are owed it with no strings attached really toasts me. Thanks for bringing that up.


39 posted on 01/10/2006 10:51:17 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: FairOpinion; freepatriot32; traviskicks

Well, geez, it's not like we're all diabetic or anything. I mean, it doesn't affect us one bit, it's just government keeping people safe, even if they do have to go into their private medical records without permission. After all, has anyone shown how the Diabetic Monitoring Act has infringed on their freedom? Name ONE way it's violated their Constitutional rights, just one, c'mon, I triple-dog-dare you! It's obvious you're one of those diabetic-loving Soros-buddying bleeding-heart liberal-pinko-communist types!


40 posted on 01/10/2006 10:56:40 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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