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New York City Starts To Monitor Diabetics
WP ^ | Jan. 11, 2006 | Rob Stein

Posted on 01/10/2006 8:42:26 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: ApplegateRanch
"What's next? Mandatory condom use, or mandatory brushing & flossing; which one comes first?"


41 posted on 01/10/2006 11:02:53 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Your statements are beyond ignorant!!


42 posted on 01/10/2006 11:02:55 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: metmom

haven't thought of that angle???? What angle??? Do you actually believe that Type 1 diabetics cause their disease???? Yes, Type 2 is usually caused by obesity BUT NOT Type 1. More research before posting should be mandatory.


43 posted on 01/10/2006 11:04:54 PM PST by clooney4824
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To: clooney4824
I am Type 1 diabetic..but I am 65

Have you needed insulin for your diabetes for about four or more decades. The terminology in diabetes is often confusing, but type 1 diabetics usually become insulin dependent before they are 25 years old. They are almost never overweight. Congratulations on your longevity.

44 posted on 01/10/2006 11:39:10 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Ah, yes; those were the days.

OTOH, that is a far cry from the Thought Police breaking down a boy's bedroom door, dipping his hand in jalepeno juice, and saying:

"Try it NOW, you little pervert!"

45 posted on 01/11/2006 12:09:54 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mad-Mo! Allah bin Satan commands ye: Bow to him 5 times/day: Head down, @ss-up, and fart at Heaven!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I think the first ghost will see you at midnight, preceded of course by some Jacob Marley type visit.


46 posted on 01/11/2006 1:19:08 AM PST by Rumple4
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To: clooney4824
Excuse me. I forgot the question mark. That should have been, "Have you needed insulin for your diabetes for about four or more decades?"

Here's a term I just came across, LADA, as in Latent autoimmune diabetes in adults (LADA) should be less latent.

47 posted on 01/11/2006 8:04:43 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: FairOpinion

As a medical professional (in NY, BTW)this bothers me a great deal.


48 posted on 01/11/2006 10:17:20 AM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: FairOpinion

I am outraged. Govt. out of my endocrine system! LOL


49 posted on 01/11/2006 10:17:54 AM PST by jw777
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To: neverdem

I became Type 1 suddenly at age 41...puzzeled my MD,too. Have injected insulin for 24 yrs. I am not and never have been overweight.


50 posted on 01/11/2006 10:22:41 AM PST by clooney4824
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To: FairOpinion
HIPAA was sold as privacy protection, but it really isn't.

It just makes it harder for you to give information you want to give to people you want to give it to.

Bingo. And it also gives the government rights over your health information, which is what NYC is taking advantage of.

Why are they doing this? Because they can.

51 posted on 01/11/2006 10:26:20 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: FairOpinion
,i>"I guess you only have right to privacy when you are planning to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge"

Or to kill an unborn child.

52 posted on 01/11/2006 10:26:45 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between the left and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: clooney4824

As I said in my post, "most" diabetes is self-inflicted -- not all. The actual number is somewhere between 90-95%, depending on which research you look at. But even for Type 1 diabetics, if they are relying on taxpayer-funded medical care, it isn't "none of the taxpayers' business" whether they are making a reasonable contribution to the effort to control their disease. Some people get skin cancer even though they are reasonably cautious about sun exposure, and I'd apply the same standard to them: if they take up sunning themselves at the beach, the taxpayers shouldn't be hit up for the cost of further treatment for their skin cancer, even if the original bout wasn't due to irresponsible behavior.


53 posted on 01/11/2006 11:02:06 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: clooney4824
If you're interested, you may want to enter (IDDM or DM type 1 or type 1 diabetes mellitus or juvenile onset diabetes) and antibodies into the search function of PubMed in the link at comment 47.

IMHO, Governmentshrinker's previous comment was concerning the Type II diabetics who are obese and living unhealthy lifestyles on the dole. The diabetes mellitus of Type II is characterized by insulin resistance in someone who is obese, but whose pancreas still makes insulin. If they can lose weight, many can control their glucose levels by diet and exercise alone. The remainder can usually control their blood glucose levels by pills alone, at least initially.

If you're not a healthcare professional, may I suggest that you be wary of searching on the net for medical information? I recommend MedlinePlus from the U.S. National Library of Medicine. Good luck with the diabetes.

54 posted on 01/11/2006 11:02:54 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
This type of invasive tracking can have no positive outcome.

True, but even if the outcome were good, this is not the kind of power invested in goverment by the founders. They don't have the jurisdiction to be that intrusive on issues that don't affect public health.

55 posted on 01/11/2006 11:35:22 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Txsleuth
I have a 6 year old granddaughter with diabetes...and I am appalled that a CITY feels they have the right to anyone's blood sugar readings...

This is ridiculous...diabetes is not contagious...no problem of epidemic.

What?

You've never heard of "Infectious Diabetes"? /sarcasm

WTH are these people thinking??

Looks to me like they're thinking most people will say, "First they came for the diabetics, but I was not a diabetic, so..."

Don't be surprised if the next step is to "monitor" people with hypertension... and then coronary artery disease... and then arthritis... and eventually most "diseases" including, of course, "depression".

That last one ought to really start increasing quite a bit as the program progresses.

56 posted on 01/11/2006 12:53:57 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

how about rump rangers spreading AIDS and costing taxpayers billions???? Huh?? HuH??


57 posted on 01/11/2006 7:23:57 PM PST by clooney4824
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To: kenth
Wait, that didn't sound right. I think I got my cliche mixed up.

Nope. You got it exactly right.

58 posted on 01/11/2006 7:28:29 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: clooney4824

I wish you well. Our son developed Type 1 Diabetes at age 13--which is the average age of the onset of Juvenile Diabetes. But like you said, it can arrive later in life or much, much earlier.

As you know, Type 1 Diabetes is not due to carelessness with weight, generally speaking. I think Type 2 constitutes about 90% of the "diabetic" population, and is more of an effect of lifestyle.


59 posted on 01/11/2006 7:42:42 PM PST by Edgewood Pilot
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Your post looks reasonable to me.


60 posted on 01/11/2006 8:26:06 PM PST by ntnychik
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