Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"Intelligent design" not science: Vatican paper
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | 01/19/06 | Tom Heneghan

Posted on 01/19/2006 1:33:32 PM PST by peyton randolph

PARIS (Reuters) - The Roman Catholic Church has restated its support for evolution with an article praising a U.S. court decision that rejects the "intelligent design" theory as non-scientific.

The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano said that teaching intelligent design -- which argues that life is so complex that it needed a supernatural creator -- alongside Darwin's theory of evolution would only cause confusion...

A court in the state of Pennsylvania last month barred a school from teaching intelligent design (ID), a blow to Christian conservatives who want it to be taught in biology classes along with the Darwinism they oppose.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catholic; creationisminadress; dover; fsm; id; idiocy; idisjunkscience; ignoranceisstrength; science; vatican
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280 ... 601-606 next last
To: b_sharp; furball4paws
1. Best Bond Girl - The one in Goldfinger who got painted gold.
2. Best Bond movie - I donno. None of the Roger Moore films.
3. Greatest name. - Pussy Galore. Oh yeah!
241 posted on 01/19/2006 5:53:33 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 230 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry
The one in Goldfinger who got painted gold.

Mmmmmm Ms. Masterson.
242 posted on 01/19/2006 5:55:57 PM PST by xmission
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: xmission
Darn, forgot to address this point.

"I was questioning a post that said basically that the changes in how you look and how your children look is evolution.

This is true in a sense. 'Descent with modification' has been used and is a valid way to describe evolution and is easily observed in a single generation of a single family; but if it only happens in that single family it should not correctly be called 'Evolution'.

This is usually given as a simple example rather than a real definition of evolution. I believe this was the intention of the poster you responded to.

243 posted on 01/19/2006 5:56:36 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 215 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry; Ichneumon

Thanks PH for your excellent links in post #221....as always, you have provided some excellent reference material..

I especially enjoyed Ichneumons post about Galileo, and was especially touched at many of Galileos thoughts, this one being most excellent...."I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

This quote of Galileos, spoken so long ago, is as fresh, and relevant today, as it was in his day...

Thanks to Darwin Central...



244 posted on 01/19/2006 5:56:41 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 221 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry

245 posted on 01/19/2006 6:06:48 PM PST by xmission
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: plain talk
"Try giving the matter a tad more thought and reading the post before responding so quickly. Quick can be foolish. Macro evolution has NOT been observed.

That depends on your definition of 'Macro-evolution'

If you define it as scientists do, then it has been observed many times.

If you define it as many AntiEvos do, as a severe saltation event such as a cat giving birth to a dog then no Evo ever claims that would happen.

If you define it to be a dramatic change in a lineage during a large expanse of time, and through many generations and cumulative changes, such that the original species would be placed in a different taxonomic classification above the species level than the umpteenth descendants would, then you are correct. We have not been observing species long enough. However direct observation is not the only type of 'observation' used in science, in fact it is less prevalent than indirect observation and inference, which is part of our evolution knowledge base.

246 posted on 01/19/2006 6:06:52 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 218 | View Replies]

To: andysandmikesmom
Thanks to Darwin Central

No problem. When you rule the world, you can afford to toss some goodies around.

247 posted on 01/19/2006 6:07:28 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 244 | View Replies]

To: xmission

Yeah, that's her. Yeah ...


248 posted on 01/19/2006 6:08:23 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 245 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry

Shirley Eaton


249 posted on 01/19/2006 6:08:52 PM PST by xmission
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 248 | View Replies]

To: xmission
I do however believe that evil is the absence of GOD,

It is perfectly alright to have a belief for which philosophical method and logical deduction has been argued for proof. But one should not forget and should study the philosophical method and logical deduction that argues for proof against the belief. The acceptance or denial of such proofs by the masses is the most probable explination.
250 posted on 01/19/2006 6:09:03 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 191 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry
"I make one typo in six years"

I assume this is another typo. Probably should be 'I make one typo in six minutes'.

251 posted on 01/19/2006 6:09:15 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 225 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry

Add to it the time context. How could you get away with saying anything using "pussy" unless it was followed by "cat"? back in the '60's.

Now you can say any tasteless thin that comes into you mind.

Fleming must be smiling at us from the great beyond


252 posted on 01/19/2006 6:09:34 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 241 | View Replies]

To: xmission
Shirley Eaton

I wonder if that's her real name, or a stage name. It ranks right up there with Pussy Galore.

253 posted on 01/19/2006 6:10:16 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 249 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry

Now you're taking it too far!!!


254 posted on 01/19/2006 6:10:55 PM PST by xmission
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 253 | View Replies]

To: furball4paws

1. Best Bond Girl - The ones at the beginning that we never get to see with the lights on.
2. Best Bond movie. - From Russia With Love
3. Greatest name. - definitely Pussy Galore, but I also liked Plenty O'Toole.


255 posted on 01/19/2006 6:11:19 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 193 | View Replies]

To: xmission

Looks like so far its a tie. Anyway I'm going to quit keeping track, this thread is so far too 'nice'. I had expected much more from both sides.


256 posted on 01/19/2006 6:11:24 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 229 | View Replies]

To: xmission
I can hear Connery with his accent saying "I must be dreaming" after she told him her name!

The smirk on his face said volumes.

257 posted on 01/19/2006 6:12:37 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 232 | View Replies]

To: DarkSavant
He was actually allowed to write a dialogue between the two conflicting systems of thought.

On what basis was he placed under house arrest and shown the insrtuments of torture?

258 posted on 01/19/2006 6:14:22 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 203 | View Replies]

To: b_sharp


I'm calling it a night. "Goodnight" to the Bond nuts.
259 posted on 01/19/2006 6:15:08 PM PST by xmission
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 256 | View Replies]

To: furball4paws
"And why does the juxtaposition of "tongue" and "pussy" cause you so much consternation?

Tongue tied in this context is not consternation but preparation.

260 posted on 01/19/2006 6:16:03 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 233 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 221-240241-260261-280 ... 601-606 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson