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Posted on 01/23/2006 8:16:52 AM PST by Calpernia

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To: Calpernia
Like I've said before on the Puff Ping threads. Why doesn't anyone ever say when they go nonsmoking, there are grant entitlements from the Cigarette Restitution Fund.

The thing of it is, most of the money is being paid for by smokers who pay taxes on cigarettes.  That is usually in the state that the smoker resides.

But this group is overseas.  So, I am not sure if our Federal Government is sending smokers tax dollars to that group or not.  This group is new to me.  I never heard of them before.

And I thought the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation were pigs!

41 posted on 01/23/2006 10:50:24 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

>>>>So, I am not sure if our Federal Government is sending smokers tax dollars to that group or not.

Yikes. I'm not sure you followed all of this either. Most of this money is coming from an NGO. Not the feds!


42 posted on 01/23/2006 10:57:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Yikes. I'm not sure you followed all of this either. Most of this money is coming from an NGO. Not the feds!

Like I said, this one is all new to me, and maybe I haven't grasp the whole situation yet.  But no matter what, this can't be good!

43 posted on 01/23/2006 11:01:17 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

You are absolutely right about that. It is NOT good!


44 posted on 01/23/2006 11:03:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 3catsanadog
I wish I could remember the saying that goes something like this - when they came for our (fill in the blank), I didn't mind cause I didn't have any.

There seem to be several versions of the saying out there used by the Right and the Left. The version I always heard was on libertarian sites: "First they came for the Jews, and I was silent because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the guns, and I was silent..." Ending with, "When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out."

But it appears it started as a saying against the Nazis.

Well... I just did a little too much research on that one. :-0 Back to work...

45 posted on 01/23/2006 11:10:35 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: RightWhale
"but it amounts to keeping on keeping on."

LOL! Like we have a choice?

Carolyn

46 posted on 01/23/2006 11:12:33 AM PST by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: Calpernia

This thread has had 688 views. :)


47 posted on 01/23/2006 11:24:44 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
Thank god we have a majority of republicans in the congress and the senate and a republican in the white house.They will put a stop to the nanny state bs (they are for smaller less intrusive government you know seeing as how they are conservatives and all )

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

48 posted on 01/23/2006 1:12:02 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: SheLion

>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts?page=41#41

What are Nongovernmental Organizations (NGOs)

(joint) Transnational organizations of private citizens that maintain a consultative status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations. Nongovernmental organizations may be professional associations, foundations, multinational businesses, or simply groups with a common interest in humanitarian assistance activities (development and relief). “Nongovernmental organizations” is a term normally used by non-United States organizations.


NGO Global Network
http://www.ngo.org

This site is the home page for our global NGO community (Non-governmental organizations associated with the United Nations).

Its aim is to help promote collaborations between NGOs throughout the world, so that together we can more effectively partner with the United Nations and each other to create a more peaceful, just, equitable and sustainable world for this and future generations.

blah blah blah


49 posted on 01/23/2006 1:12:55 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SheLion

That doesn't mean everyone understood me though. :(


50 posted on 01/23/2006 1:13:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Deadshot Drifter

ping


51 posted on 01/23/2006 1:37:07 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Calpernia
(Non-governmental organizations associated with the United Nations).

UNITED NATIONS???  nuff said

HA!

52 posted on 01/23/2006 2:03:23 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Calpernia
That doesn't mean everyone understood me though. :(

Yes.  This is quite a piece and so long.  But well worth the read!

53 posted on 01/23/2006 2:04:34 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion
Well, I'm to old now to let them mold ME in the way they want me to go.

I'm with you kid. Let's just grab a couple of shotguns and sit on the front porch with them across our knees for the rest of our days. ;-)

54 posted on 01/23/2006 2:15:37 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Calpernia
Nope, I didn't know about them until you posted this thread.

I just banged mindlessly around until I stumbled onto it.

55 posted on 01/23/2006 2:17:50 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Calpernia
But don't lose site on the fact that it is going to data storage systems NOT OF THE USA!!!!

That is very frightening.

Almost as bad as a bunch of do-gooding American liberals getting their sweaty talons on the data.

56 posted on 01/23/2006 2:19:51 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
I feel sorry for anyone under the age of 35 today. They are in the midst of "Dumbing Down of America!"

Try being one of them caught in the nightmare. But *I* know what I'm doing, and what's better, and what is RIGHT for me. But my INSURANCE plan, from my employer, thinks they know so much better. *cry* Let's see... in the last 72 hours, I couldn't get the meds to take away my migraines, so my doc gave me samples instead - the insurance won't pay for them because they are 'new'. Um... I can't go to my pain doctor anymore because I have to pay $1000 in out of pocket bills before the insurance will even touch it. Even though he belongs to the same plan and group. Oh, and I ended up paying $50.00/month more for medications because they increased our copays for prescriptions to $15 & $25 respectively, and of course.... there are no generics for Advair or Accolate, or any of these, ya know... life saving drugs.

What I want to know is the pharmaceutical and insurance big business ties are to our government, and why they are plotting to keep sick, if for no other reason than from worry that we WILL get sick and have to pay these obscene premiums. What's really the worst is that I'm only 32. It's not going to get any easier for me, physically, emotionally or any other way. Something has *got* to be done about the state of our nation's health care, and Billary ain't the way. Neither is socialism like Canada or Britain (2 months wait to see my doc for a migraine??? uh, no.. thanks). And someone else hit the nail on the head that said, not even cost of living increases can keep up with all of this. I'm drowning, and no one is there to save us this time. :9
57 posted on 01/23/2006 2:20:30 PM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: Pirate21; SheLion; Calpernia
I see the usual suspects are in the thick of it.

I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked!

said summit planning committee member Dr. Denise V. Rodgers, Associate Dean of Community Health for UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School.

58 posted on 01/23/2006 2:26:55 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
I'm with you kid. Let's just grab a couple of shotguns and sit on the front porch with them across our knees for the rest of our days. ;-)

We might HAVE to, the way things are going.  eeekkk!!

59 posted on 01/23/2006 2:33:12 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Jhohanna
What I want to know is the pharmaceutical and insurance big business ties are to our government, and why they are plotting to keep sick, if for no other reason than from worry that we WILL get sick and have to pay these obscene premiums.

Good Lord!  Sorry for all that you are going through.  Can't be easy.

I have heard that Seniors have to make a decision between their meds and putting food on the table.  It really sucks.

60 posted on 01/23/2006 2:35:54 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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