Authors look at Lincoln's efforts to control media (Did Lincoln order trashing of newspaper of

Quad City Times ^ | Feb 3 05 | Quad City Times

[sangrila]

How's that kool-aid?

[detsaoT]

Nice, insightful comment.

[Torie]

Just one of those threads. I just take quiet satisfaction, that it all turned out to my satisfaction. :)

[MamaTexan]

"Dictator" may not be the exact word I'd use to describe him,

I would, since he broke the law he swore to uphold, then changed our form of government by his actions.

[sangrila]

The poster's comments that Lincoln was a tyrant who was some how responsible for the rise of communism and facism is so irrational and idiotic that it does not warrant the effort to say anything nice or insightful.

[stainlessbanner]

DixiePing

[detsaoT]

Well, Lincoln certainly provided history with a good example of the centralization of power by force. Consider the fact that Communist China considers him a great historical leader (China Finds A Hero in Lincoln?) Whether that use of power was justified is something I would debate, but setting that aside, I can certainly see where you're coming from. Forgive me if my reply came across too harshly, but it's not uncommon to see cut-and-run posters drop in on these occasions merely to insult someone else in the thread.

Regards,
~dt~

[billbears]

“What impressed me most about Lincoln as president was that he really represented the people. He always did what was for the best of the people, who were near and dear to him,” he said.

Saw this book the other day in the store. If that's one of the authors' opinion, I'm glad I didn't. Revisionists have given up trying to explain away his war crimes and have instead presented an idea that even though he did these things, he was a good man.

[stainlessbanner]

Wonder if these guys support John Deere's decision to fire 2 workers for whistlin Dixie (literally) and for having a small Confederate flag sticker on his toolbox.

Confederate flag flies, John Deere dies

[stainlessbanner]

Interesting link detsaoT, thanks for posting.

It certainly skips around Lincoln's unconstitution actions prior to and during the war.

Related article from GOPCap: Lincoln's Unconstitutional Suspension of Habeas Corpus - an analysis of an impeachable offense (Bonus entertainment value: Wlat has some old posts on this one)

[groanup]

Lincoln was a president. Reagan was a great president. FDR was a great president because he actually did something though we'd probably be better off without some of his programs. John F. Kennedy was recently voted the best president of the modern era. Go figure. He didn't do anything but screw up the invasion of "Cuber", as he pronounced it.

Point? Idiots pick the greatest presidents for the rest of the sheep. Lincolonel has been tagged with that moniker because of his Emancipation Proclimation, and we all know what a joke that was. It didn't even have its desired effect.

Oh, he did have some pithy, witty sayings.

[TexConfederate1861]

You are SO right! :)

Greetings from Montgomery County!

[groanup]

He did have such authority in the areas in rebellion, hence the Emancipation Proclamation.

Sheesh. He also had authority to order the CSA back into the Union, yuh think?

[Nasty McPhilthy]

Here we go again. If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times:

North 1
South 0

Halftime

[sangrila]

No problem. I understand one questioning Lincoln's policies, but felt the poster was being ridiculous.

[libertarianben]

Moron.

[sangrila]

Read some of the article. It is interesting and kind of funny in a way. Third/Second World dictatorship's always amuse me when they start discussing American historical figures and/or celebraties. I would personally label that as Chinese propaganda. Other nations play those games whenever we criticize another country for invading a nation in a territorial dispute. They will bring up Indians, Mexico, the Civil War, and any other event in American history that they feel undermines the legitimacy of our argument.

[sangrila]

Lincoln was arguably the greatest president in American history.

[libertarianben]

"Here we go again. If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times:

North 1
South 0

Halftime"

And the country been paying the price ever since. Thanks to the Yankee victory the Constitution has become more and more meaningless.

[libertarianben]

If you consider he was destroying the Constitution a great political move, then yes he was a great president. I do not agree.