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Why radical Islam might defeat the West
Asia Times ^ | july 8, 2003 | Spengler

Posted on 02/04/2006 1:49:53 AM PST by mark_interrupted

Why radical Islam might defeat the West

"Does Spengler know, for instance, that in the last century 2,000 distinct ethnic groups have gone extinct?" Eric Garrett asks in his June 12 riposte, A question of identity, to an earlier article of mine, Neo-cons in a religious bind.

Garrett's organization, the World Conservation Union, is devoted to preserving fragile cultures. As a matter of fact, I reported in this space that in the next decade, yet another 2,000 distinct ethnic groups would go extinct (Live and Let Die of April 13, 2002). Ignore the endangered Ewoks for a moment, Mr Garrett, and explain why the imperial peoples of the past two centuries - Germans, Japanese, French, Italians, Russians, and so forth - have elected to disappear, through failure to reproduce (Why Europe chooses extinction, April 8).

Garrett and I focus on the same data, but with different agendas. His concern is the mass extinction of primitive cultures, which I think inevitable; my concern is the fall of Western civilization and the possible triumph of radical Islam. In neither case does the influence of Leo Strauss have any relevance. Europe and Japan, the erstwhile imperial oppressors of Garrett's 2,000 lost tribes, are dying out for the same reason that oppressed peoples died out, and thousands more soon will die out as well. With few exceptions, they were neither butchered nor dispossessed. Unlike the colonizers of the 16th century, who brought smallpox, the European colonists of the 20th century brought antibiotics. Western intervention secured the physical existence of aboriginal cultures, but undermined their will to live. Now it is the Europeans themselves who are endangered.

Socrates (like Strauss) was wrong. It is not the unexamined life that is not worth living, but the life defined by mere animal existence. Unlike lower species, humans require a sense of the eternal. The brute instinct for self-preservation is a myth. It should be no surprise. Precisely a century ago, George Bernard Shaw in his 1903 interlude Don Juan in Hell warned that Western hedonism would lead to depopulation.

The day is coming when great nations will find their numbers dwindling from census to census; when the six-roomed villa will rise in price above the family mansion; when the viciously reckless poor and the stupidly pious rich will delay the extinction of the race only by degrading it; whilst the boldly prudent, the thriftily selfish and ambitious, the imaginative and poetic, the lovers of money and solid comfort, the worshippers of success, of art, and of love, will all oppose to the Force of Life the device of sterility.

This brings us to the reason why Strauss has become something of a bore. The good professor (I mean this sincerely) hung his political-science hat on Hobbes, who threw out the traditional concept of God-given rights of man. He derived the social contract instead from man's brute instinct for self-preservation. In order to protect themselves against violence in the state of nature, men surrender part of their freedom to a ruler who in turn guarantees their security. By deriving natural rights from brute instinct rather than divine law, Strauss argued (Natural Right and History, 1950), Hobbes invented modern political science, that is, a discipline distinct from faith. Thus he made it possible to create a practicable republic composed of selfish men, unlike the utopian vision of Plato, which depended upon virtuous rulers. (Strauss sought to conjure out of Plato's writings a view similar to that of Hobbes, and I will let the classicists argue over whether his "esoteric" reading has merit.) Kant summarized the modern viewpoint: "We could devise a constitution for a race of devils, if only they were intelligent."

History exposes Hobbes's "self-preservation instinct" as a chimera. If men have no more than physical self-preservation, self-disgust will stifle them. Strauss knew that Hobbes's approach leads inevitably to nihilism, and he proposed a return to Athenian political philosophy as an antidote, although what that might accomplish is unclear. His students still quibble fruitlessly over whether Strauss "stayed with the moderns" or "went back to Athens".

Did someone in Washington take Kant literally and set about devising a constitution for devils with the Arab world in mind? Does it matter? Washington must talk about democracy in the Arab world, Strauss or no. Strauss, as in the Jewish joke about the man who sees a shop whose windows are full of clocks. He enters and tells the proprietor, "I want to buy a clock." The proprietor responds, "I don't sell clocks." "Then what do you do?" "I am a mohel [ritual circumciser]." "Then why do you put clocks in the window?" "What do you want me to put in the window?"

Which brings us to the threat of radical Islam. "You are decadent and hedonistic. We on the other hand are willing to die for what we believe, and we are a billion strong. You cannot kill all of us, so you will have to accede to what we demand." That, in a nutshell, constitutes the Islamist challenge to the West.

Neither the demographic shift toward Muslim immigrants nor meretricious self-interest explains Western Europe's appeasement of Islam, but rather the terrifying logic of the numbers. That is why President Bush has thrown his prestige behind the rickety prospect of an Israeli-Palestinian peace. And that is why Islamism has only lost a battle in Iraq, but well might win the war.

Not a single Western strategist has proposed an ideological response to the religious challenge of Islam. On the contrary: the Vatican, the guardian-of-last-resort of the Western heritage, has placed itself squarely in the camp of appeasement. Except for a few born-again Christians in the United States, no Western voice is raised in criticism of Islam itself. The trouble is that Islam believes in its divine mission, while the United States has only a fuzzy recollection of what it once believed, and therefore has neither the aptitude nor the inclination for ideological warfare.

Relativism is America's religion, as Leo Strauss complained. Only superficially can one explain this by the peculiar composition of the American people - that is, a collection of immigrants who willfully abandoned their cultures to begin again there, and view each other's customs with a peculiar blend of sentimentality and indifference. Americans fail to grasp decisive strategic issues not only because they misunderstand other cultures, but because they avert their gaze from the painful episodes of their own history. In his book The Metaphysical Club, Prof Louis Menand observes that the horrors of the Civil War discredited the idealism of young New Englanders (his case study is Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr), producing the vapid pragmatism that has reigned since then in American culture. Americans suffer from a form of traumatic amnesia, such that every generation of Americans must learn the hard way.

Garrett thinks that Strauss's critique of relativism provides a moral prop for American unilateralism. He can relax. Strauss's case is weak. It amounts to reductio ad absurdum: "All societies have their ideals, cannibal societies no less than civilized ones. If principles are sufficiently justified by the fact that they are accepted by a society, the principles of cannibalism are as defensible or sound as those of civilized life." Now comes Garrett, whose job it is to defend cannibal societies' right to exist. Strauss in his worst nightmares could not have imagined Garrett.

Strauss cannot convince Garrett. Indeed, he could not convince himself. Strauss knew perfectly well that philosophy could not refute relativism ("radical historicism"), hence his helplessness before Heidegger's parlour tricks. Strauss gave up on Nietzsche largely because Heidegger offered a sharper critique of rationalism. (Garrett's interpretation of Nietzsche as a philosemite seems idiosyncratic, to say the least, considering that Nietzsche denounced his erstwhile idol Wagner as a Jew after Wagner made peace with Christianity in Parsifal.)

Critics of the neo-conservatives accuse them of following Machiavelli, via Strauss. The charge sticks to Michael Ledeen, but surely not to Irving Kristol, the "godfather" of neo-conservatism, who spurned Machiavelli as a "the first nihilist". Who cares? Machiavelli was a Florentine lightweight who hoped that the poisoner Cesare Borgia would unite Italy. What Italian has done anything of political importance in the past 500 years? What effect on history had all the stiletto-and-arsenic games of the Italian condottiere?

Grim men of faith - Loyola, Oldebarnevelt, Richilieu, Mazarin - led the religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries, while the Florentines amused the tourists (The sacred heart of darkness, February 11). The trouble with Strauss, I reiterate, is that he was an atheist, rather a disadvantage in a religious war. The West has no armed prophet. It doesn't even have an armed theologian.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; middleeast; radical; wot
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To: mark_interrupted
Yep, I realize that. A lot has happened since then.
The awakening, slow at first, is accelerating.
The cult of death's demands and actions will not abated.
They will continue to push harder until the West's restraint ends.
Total elimination of mohammedism is the only real solution.
Anything short of that is a temporary fix.
41 posted on 02/04/2006 4:50:13 AM PST by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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To: son of caesar

Thank you for your gracious response. I am also an American, but I'm now living in Asia. I think the 19 Saudis insanely murdering 3000 Americans one day is what got us to this point. I also think if we Americans were anything like Mohammedans then everyone in the Islamic world would be dead right now due to our superior weapons. But we're not mass killers, so here we are trying to create democracy in undemocratic places. I don't know if it will work.


42 posted on 02/04/2006 4:51:54 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: mark_interrupted

What a waste of ink. It could have been said in two letters....PC. Political Correctness insures all of us total defeat in anything we undertake.


43 posted on 02/04/2006 4:52:24 AM PST by DH
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To: livius
I think this is one very positive change, hopeful for the West, that has occurred since this article was written.

Wasn't it Beloc in his book about Heresy who makes the point that the Muslims will start trying to take over the world again in the future? I think he wrote the book sometime in the 20s. So, that would make him pretty good at predicting...of course he was an historian. As we know, a good historian can read the future because he reads the past!

44 posted on 02/04/2006 4:59:26 AM PST by Diva
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To: mark_interrupted

I'll tell you why.

Because they are crazy and got bigger balls than the rest of the civilized world and dont give a damn about life, theirs or others.

72 virgins is a powerful lure even for those who get their kicks on the backsides of little boys.


45 posted on 02/04/2006 5:06:58 AM PST by funkywbr
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To: mark_interrupted

bttt


46 posted on 02/04/2006 5:12:50 AM PST by lunarbicep (There is something about a closet that makes a skeleton terribly restless.)
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To: mark_interrupted
"You cannot kill all of us..."

You're wrong.

47 posted on 02/04/2006 5:13:53 AM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: nopardons
Hitler and the Nazis lost!

Crazy Muslims have been beaten for centuries, with ever venture. Just because they have a lot of children, so that they can use them as walking/flying bombs, doesn't mean that they're going to win.

Yes, Hitler and the Nazis lost. We had to defeat their armies before we could occupy their lands and impose "our system" on them.

The Muslims are by-passing the "defeat the armies" step as they first "occupy" our countries and then allow our own laws to "defeat our armies". Think about it before making an emotional response.

48 posted on 02/04/2006 5:18:58 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: starbase
It was worth a try at least
But whit each passing day a showdown become more probable
49 posted on 02/04/2006 5:25:08 AM PST by 1903A3
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To: Bobalu
I hope I never live to see what the results of the US waging total war would be like, with the firepower we now have ... A billion souls could vanish before the though of restraint would even be entertained.

Yeah, that makes for good conversation but reality it's not. We'll fall by the sword of Political Correctness before we fire a single nuclear weapon.

We have forgotten how we came into existence and what made us great.

50 posted on 02/04/2006 5:27:21 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: 1903A3
It was worth a try at least But with each passing day a showdown become more probable

Yes, it's worth a try.
51 posted on 02/04/2006 5:31:08 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: kanawa
This statement becomes more out-dated with each passing day.

The article is a couple years old. People are tiring of the BS from the Muslims – look at what happened in Australia. It was relatively minor, but it is a start. If our governments don’t step up and quit this appeasement crap The People will have to take matters into their own hands.
52 posted on 02/04/2006 5:36:56 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: mark_interrupted
Wasn't it Arnold Toynbee that civilizations are never defeated by external threats, but that they commit suicide?

“Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.”
53 posted on 02/04/2006 5:41:29 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

Thanks for clearing that up.


54 posted on 02/04/2006 7:25:31 AM PST by mark_interrupted
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To: Diva

Belloc was very perceptive. So was Chesterton.


55 posted on 02/04/2006 8:16:47 AM PST by livius
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To: mark_interrupted
Now it is the Europeans themselves who are endangered.

...until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old. - Winston Churchill.

Will the US be called upon again?

56 posted on 02/04/2006 8:55:44 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: AntiGuv
Europe's problem isn't hedonism; Europe's problem is socialism

They are different sides of the same coin.

57 posted on 02/04/2006 9:00:08 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: mark_interrupted

If the West has an unifying religions it has as one of its catechisms, self loathing.


58 posted on 02/04/2006 9:08:43 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! Or why should I tolerate those who hate me?)
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To: AntiGuv
The problem is that secular values don't tend to involve fanatic zealotry as do religious values.....

.....There are many who think that the solution is to be found in winding back the clock. That's exactly what this article is getting at

......
...these guys can win...the "secularists" can't ..

59 posted on 02/04/2006 9:57:26 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: AntiGuv
Opps! I left out Martin Luther. He qualifies too!

There have been attempts at renewals and modern day reformations, e.g. 'The Christian Reconstruction' movement, but they have been resisted by secularists and surprisingly, by evangelicals. Apparently because they would interfere with the "last days" rapture scenario and would promote Biblical law.

A famous radio Bible teacher, J. Vernon McGee, decades ago, famously said when asked why Christians didn't get involved in the political process...."why polish the brass on a sinking ship"?

...the late Francis Schaffer and Rousas J. Rushdoony are central figures in the genesis Christian Reconstruction Movement

60 posted on 02/04/2006 10:28:10 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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