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The Truth About the Homosexual Rights Movement (Caution, graphic contents)
New Oxford Review ^ | February 9, 2006 | Ronald G. Lee

Posted on 02/09/2006 8:10:43 AM PST by NYer

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To: DirtyHarryY2K; DBeers

Didn't have time to read the whole thing but it is a must read. Check it out!


21 posted on 02/09/2006 9:16:37 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: FormerLib

Thanks for the ping. If you find other relevant articles, you can ping DirtyHarryY2K and DBeers as they have taken over the Homosexual Agenda pinglist for a while.


22 posted on 02/09/2006 9:17:44 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: NYer

Very good article. Will, on Will and Grace, is not real. It takes a heterosexual man to ACT like a "normal" homosexual man.


23 posted on 02/09/2006 9:25:07 AM PST by sandbar
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To: NYer

This is a great article. Thanks.


24 posted on 02/09/2006 9:25:51 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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To: r9etb

1. Create a storefront screen of "honest" books to fool decent but gullible people while masking their actual intent.

Fixed that for ya!

Yes, it's number 1. No doubt about it.


25 posted on 02/09/2006 9:28:40 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bump and ping


26 posted on 02/09/2006 9:29:27 AM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: FormerLib

Uh huh. You're as delusional as the gay guys, I guess.


27 posted on 02/09/2006 9:30:18 AM PST by r9etb
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To: NYer
A friend of mine of more than 40 years "came out" as a teenager and thought he was having a ball and I suppose he was for a few years. He moved out to LA and sold mens' clothing and learned about antiques and, yes, decorating. He had many permanent committed relationships, some lasting more than a month. When he came back to Florida for awhile in the 80s he was grim and did not speak much though he had been raucous and voluble as a youth.

A few years later Dom returned again for good. He had resolved to be celibate the rest of his life. He had utterly wearied of the crazy life and found there was no other available to him in that milieu. He had seen too many die of AIDS or lose their health to multible other diseases; too many suicides. He told me everybody over 30 knows one person who has killed himself. Dom knew nine. He had been raised as an atheist rationalist so he had no church to come back to. He is not pathetic as he has developed a social life of sorts. His friends are mostly women though he says he could never imagine going to bed with ne of them- it would be like homosexual or something. He shuns homosexual men and doesn't trust lesbians.He feels he wasted his life but at least doesn't think he has to ride that particular beast all the way into the ground.

28 posted on 02/09/2006 9:31:18 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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To: NYer

Of all the articles I have read on this subject this man's is the most truthful and articulate. I am not and never have been homosexual. But circumstances in my life have (in the past) brought me into close proximity with homosexuals. What this man writes so eloquently is spot on. And his ultimate solution to his predicament is also exactly right. I pray God to bless this man and others like him who have faced their personal demons (and powerful demons they are) and are struggling to overcome them and find the grace and salvation that our God promises to all of us. He may be ashamed of his past but in facing up to it he is also showing a degree of courage not often encountered in the world today.


29 posted on 02/09/2006 9:37:48 AM PST by scory
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To: ibheath

bump for later read


30 posted on 02/09/2006 9:46:55 AM PST by ibheath (Born again and grateful to God.)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Homosexuality and Hope, Statement of the Catholic Medical Association
Same-Sex "Marriage" and Mental Health
Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)

What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda

Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues


31 posted on 02/09/2006 9:46:59 AM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: Gingersnap
I always assumed that there were very happy homosexual couples out there but I simply never met them.

I know a few. I work in a "creative" field, so gays just come with the territory. My boss, for one, has been with his partner for 20-some years.

32 posted on 02/09/2006 9:55:56 AM PST by Heyworth ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: EdReform; little jeremiah; scripter

Ping


33 posted on 02/09/2006 10:02:19 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Pyro7480
Unfortunately, the psychiatrists are the ones telling us that this IS normal. They actually created a clinical standard establishing sodomy as being mentally healthy. They are no better than those who are addicted to hedonism. They only consider it a problem when a patient has problems 'confronting' their sexual urges. Can you imagine having 'civil rights' for a drug addict? Why would it be any different for somebody addicted to sodomy?

But spiritual help, absolutely. And some ethical reinforcement. If you want to survive, you need to stop doing things which harm your own survival. And having anonymous sex would be way up the list of harmful acts to your survival.

34 posted on 02/09/2006 10:03:20 AM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: Heyworth
My boss, for one, has been with his partner for 20-some years.

Yes but how many on the side have they had. There is no such thing as a monogamous sodomite. They are either promiscuous, celibate, or dying.

35 posted on 02/09/2006 10:06:05 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: GovernmentShrinker
If you look at the relative percentages of the 'perversion' market in the sex trade, you will find that the majority of the gay market is actually tilted toward things which are either illegal or just freakishly wierd (like getting spanked with a wallet). The vast majority of hetero porn (while not healthy at all) is still geared towards having sex with attractive women in fairly normal ways.

If you question whether this is true or not, try rationalizing the statistics between pedophilia between male/male incidents and male/female incidents. Considering that 99% of the population is straight, pedophiles are closer to a 50/50 split which means that the percentage of those who are gay are somewhere on the order of 10 to 20 times more likely to be desirous of having sex with underaged partners. Just as a glaring example, where are all of the female victims of the Catholic priest sexual abuse cases? Is it just a coincidence that they all happened to like boys? I would wish that this weren't the case but I can't see any real analytical way to disprove it.

36 posted on 02/09/2006 10:10:36 AM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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Homosexual Agenda Ping!

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Excellent post

MUST READ!

37 posted on 02/09/2006 10:11:22 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: NYer
I spent some time in my younger years as more or less a "fag hag," a straight woman who liked to hang out with gay people. I saw a lot of the culture that this writer speaks of. It is not pretty. Once you get off the dance floor at the bar, it is really quite ugly and depressing. Straight people really have no idea how these people live their lives and how utterly self-destructive they are.

A previous housemate was a professed and practicing homosexual. I say the latter because I got to know him well and became convinced that he was not really a homosexual at all. He had been engaged to a woman who dumped him and his mother was a paranoid schizophrenic. He was a mess who hated himself and thought he was not worthy of a woman's love since his fiance had dumped him and his mom was crazy. He actually had a female friend who fell in love with him, and even got him to sleep with her. He was incredibly promiscuous and went to all the bars. He used to love to come home and tell me who he saw at the bar (we lived in Washington, D.C. and you might be quite surprised at some of the names.) But he was one of the unhappiest people I have ever met. He eventually died of AIDS.

I have eight former friends who died of AIDS. When I look back on them, they were all the same, unhappy men who hated themselves. I have a close relative now who claims to be gay. He is 45 years old and still will not tell his parents. He has a "partner," but since he came out to some of us in the family he has been even more unhappy than he was before. He has gained weight, developed ulcers, and is generally a mess. He jumps from job to job thinking that will make him happier. I think he just hates himself and the homosexuality is a form of self-abuse.

I have concluded that there is no such thing as "homosexuality." Many people have sexual attractions and feelings of love for people of the same sex from time to time. This does not make one "homosexual." God designed human sexuality for one reason, to result in procreation and propagation of the human race. All people can find true happiness in this way with a partner of the opposite sex. Fulfilling only the transitory sexual attraction does not lead to true happiness. This is why so many "homosexuals" are unhappy and unfulfilled. Others who call themselves homosexuals are engaging in sex with same-sex partners strictly as a form of self-abuse, because they have deeper emotional problems.

In some ways, the Catholic Church had it right back in the old days in Ireland, when it was a sin to have sexual relations outside of marriage, and a sin to have it even with your spouse unless you were making a baby. The mistake was that the Church used only punitive measures to enforce this, and was too embarrassed and puritanical to teach people frankly about sexual desire and the importance and Godliness of overcoming it.

38 posted on 02/09/2006 10:18:13 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Only losers boast about how close it was)
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To: NYer
Great essay. It must have taken a lot of courage for this man to speak out.

This is how it works. McNeill reinterprets the story of Sodom, claiming that it does not condemn homosexuality, but gang rape. Orthodox theologians respond, in a commendable but naïve attempt to rebut him, naïve because these theologians presume that McNeill believes his own arguments, and is writing as a scholar, not as a propagandist. McNeill ignores the arguments of his critics, dismissing their objections as based on homophobia, and repeats his original position. The orthodox respond again as if they were really dealing with a theologian. And back and forth for a few more rounds. Until finally McNeill or someone like him stands up and announces, "You know, this is getting us nowhere. We have our exegesis and our theology. You have yours. Why can't we just agree to disagree?" That sounds so reasonable, so ecumenical. And if the orthodox buy into it, they have lost, because the gay rights apologists have earned a place at the table from which they will never be dislodged. Getting at the truth about Sodom and Gomorrah, or correctly parsing the sexual ethics of St. Thomas, was never really the issue. Winning admittance to Holy Communion was the issue.

Forewarned is forearmed.

39 posted on 02/09/2006 10:18:26 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
This lesbian claimed to love and admire gay men. She never stopped praising their kindness and compassion and creativity. But with that one comment she in effect told my friend that she really knew what gay life was all about. It was about meat, and unless you were a good cut, don't bother coming to the supermarket.

brutal honesty

40 posted on 02/09/2006 10:19:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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