Posted on 02/09/2006 10:24:33 PM PST by conservative in nyc
Despite the triumph of placing two conservatives on the Supreme Court within four months, leaders of the conservative movement these days seem less celebratory than divided.
Heading into a midterm Congressional election in which the enthusiasm of conservative advocates could play a vital role in determining how Republicans fare, conservative leaders face internal rifts over polarizing issues and are dogged by a sense that a Republican-led Congress and a Republican president are not taking the nation in the proper direction on some critical matters, party leaders said.
The fissures were evident as members gathered here on Thursday for the first day of the annual Conservative Political Action Conference. The first session was marked by disagreement over whether to support a White House plan to allow some illegal immigrants to work legally within the United States and challenges to the legality of the Bush administration's program of eavesdropping without warrants on communications between Americans in the United States and people abroad who might have links to terrorism.
In interviews, conservative leaders emphasized their admiration for President Bush, and said they were heartened by the placement of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. on the Supreme Court. But they made it clear that that was not enough.
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[Senator Lindsey] Graham said many conservatives like himself were troubled by the administration's arguments for its program to eavesdrop on communications. "The inherent power argument, if you take it to the natural conclusion, there is no role for Congress in a time of war," he said.
Vice President Dick Cheney drew restrained applause Thursday night when he offered a defense of the surveillance program at a dinner of conservative leaders, reflecting the ambivalent feeling among many conservatives toward the program.
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LOL -- I didn't bother to read the damn, silly article.
Lindsey as their quoted conservative was enough for me!
Lindsey Graham is not a conservative.
He is a RINO. A McCain-ite that wants to bridge a "moderate" (Liberal) way.
So, let's see what the real story is here shall we?
A few months ago the Democrats had the 2006 elections locked up and G.W.B. impeached.
Now they are are running around screaming they can't allow Rovian fear tactics to win again....they are recycling Katrina and Libby, and they are printing articles on conservative discontent. Note especially in this article they make a POINT to remark conservative turnout is key for the midterms.
What does this mean?
It means Katrina etc..have faded from the Independents minds, Iran is dominant instead. They are trying to get the Independents to re-live 2006, but it isn't going to work.
It means they are just now realizing in states that lean conservative, it doesn't matter what spin they put out conservatives will not vote Dems. So they have to attempt to depress conservative turnout if they have a remote chance of success in midterms. The problem for them is that conservatives might actually do that. They might be willing to sit at home. If not for Dems making total damn fools of themselves and siding daily with the thought that our President is akin to the Iranian President. While there are upsets among conservatives about the bahavior of the Republican Party, conservatives by and large are responsible. More so than the Average. And they will not allow Dems control of the House to impeach the President for partisan advantage in these times. It will not happen.
I will add, as well, the Dems would rather try to widen the conservative discontents then focus on their own fissures that are especially noteable in wake of the appointments of Roberts and Alito. :-)
yeah that was the thread
I didn't bother to read the damn, silly article.
lol.. I admit I do that more oft than not as well.
The entire morning session was devoted to the illegal...er...immigration issue. You don't think the times would report on that do you?
Guilty here too...lol.
Sometimes, a few sentences suffice and it's usually predictable from there on out.
I wouldnt call Grahmn a RHINO. I think he has been a senator. As to his questions on the NSA I think their relevant. In fact from a conservative viewpoint there even more revelant. However, conservatives need to be careful. Maintaing contrrol of the House is of the utmost importance. I agree with you Impeachment hearing is a distraction we do not need.
"Restrained applause" in the NYSlimes is "standing applause" in the NewsMax report. Guess which I believe?
"The NY Times believes Lindsey Graham is a conservative. He and his RINO buddy McCain are about as conservative as Howard Dean."
Check this for Graham's lifetime ACU rating of 91. Hardly in the same universe as Dean.
http://www.acuratings.org/statedelegation.asp?state=sc
Conservatives aren't happy so their gonna vote for democrats? I dont think so.
That little media pimp has nothing whatever to do with American conservatism.
The News Max story, on another thread, suggests that Cheney got strong applause for his defense of the wiretapping. I'd believe them before I believe the NY Times.
Even if there was some line about this issue that didn't get strong applause, it might just have reflected the fact that the audience had already done a lot of applauding, or that they were waiting for the final line on the topic.
As for the use of Lindsay Graham, it's what you'd expect from the Times, but it goes to show that more serious conservatives should be media-friendly and very open to interviews of all kinds. If or when we aren't, the journalists naturally turn to the Lindsay Graham ass-kissers even more than they're already inclined to.
I would not worry too much about this story demoralizing conservatives. We already know we have problems, and maybe the piece will mislead the Times' Rat readership into complacency. They want us dead, so maybe it's not such a bad thing that their journalistic servants are telling them that we're dying.
What has Grahmn done for heavens sake to bring down the wrath of the far right conservatives? Heavens I dont have a clue. It seems he bacame unpopular when he joined with the gang of 14 which turns out to have been a good thing.
I am as concerned about the conservative movement as I am about a bowell movement - not whether but when.
Wishful thinking. Now I'll read the replies.
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