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To: x5452

[If he doesn't like it he can use an escort service or his own darned mouth or phone.]

But the women who want marriage are so much more attractive than the awful looking whores. Better to seduce someone who wants marriage. ;-)

We are talking about federal legislation here. If an agency wants to extract a promise from their male clients that they are, in fact, really seeking marriage that is great. A number of agencies actually do this...but they also collect huge fees for the privelege...which makes me wonder if the agency really cares if the client really, really does want marriage. I would never pay more than $30 for an introduction to someone.

You are getting scary regarding the rights you want to take away from males...not to mention possibly fusing religion with politics like an Islamist.


343 posted on 02/15/2006 12:48:05 PM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: GermanBusiness; GarySpFc; x5452

This whole topic is a mixed bag. Personally, I think the government should butt out. A reputable marriage agency would already require that sort of info and Russian women are smart and savy enough to find the reputable ones. If they're not on a reputable agency site chances are that's for a reason - so "buyer" beware.

Secondly, there is a myth that Russian girlfriends cannot receive visas to come for a visit. That is not correct. While the visa denial rate is high, it has nothing to do with whether the girl is your girlfriend or not. It has all to do with whether or not she has enough reasons to return (bank account, apartment, good job, children, parents, etc.). Plus, a lot of the American boyfriends either don't write a good enough support letter (stating they will ensure she returns home at the end of her stay and stating that they will bear all expenses for her) or don't write one at all. Long before I got married I was able to help Russian girlfriends get tourist visas - but they all met the above qualifications. And, don't forget, if the American boyfriend hasn't actually met his "girlfriend" and she doesn't have a job or other ties to the motherland she ain't gonna get the visa.

Marriage Agencies - I've seen a lot of them in action in my travels throughout the FSU and what I've seen disgusts me. Sixty or seventy year old guys after the twentysomethings (or younger). They should know that the girl is just looking for a way out and the girl should know they're dealing with a pervert. However, I've seen some men searching for a bride after beind discouraged about American women's apparent preference to put career first and family second. A Russian woman won't do that.

The other bad thing about the marriage agencies is almost all of them sell their database to other agencies. Sometimes girls are listed on multiple sites when they only signed up for one. Some of these girls have ended up on "blacklists" because unscrupulous agencies have had someone else pretend to be them and bilk stupid foreigners out of money with the sick mother, ill son, etc., sob stories. Personally, I have no sympathy for anyone dumb enough to fall for those stories.

Another myth is the criminal background check the US Embassy requires. Anyone with any time in Russia knows that all it takes is a little cash to get a clean report. I'd be willing to bet good $$$$ that a lot of prostitutes have managed to slip through the system. So, the American man following the new rules is actually at a disadvantage because he's not having a credible background check done on his "love." Best thing to do is go over there on your own. Meet her friends, her parents, see her in her element. If warning bells ring in your head heed them.


352 posted on 02/15/2006 1:18:26 PM PST by Romanov
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