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The world may celebrate the end of the Western civilization
Pravda ^ | 13.02.2006 | Sergei Mikheev

Posted on 02/14/2006 8:38:23 PM PST by presidio9

The scandal with the publication of Prophet Muhammad caricatures in European newspapers has outlined a few rather interesting details. First of all, the world has become open as the West wanted it to be. Secondly, the multi-cultural aspect of Europe has become more than just obvious. The scandal with the cartoons is a very important lesson that Russia needs to learn.

Western politicians have been urging the whole world to become more open. According to the Western point of view, globalization is an inevitable and positive process. It therefore means that the so-called global openness should replace national sovereignty.

The idea of the globalized world has returned to the West as a serious blow. Production centers were moved to remote parts of the world long ago. The Western economy has lost its erstwhile power of competition. More importantly, the world’s biggest oil reserves are located outside the zone of the “gold billion.” To crown it all, the Western civilization has been declining steadily against the background of the propaganda of consumption and personal extra-comfort that have become norms in the Western lifestyle. Having children has become something like atavism in the West which causes too much discomfort and trouble to people's professional careers and personal development. Unlike the “highly developed Western civilization,” Asia , Africa and Latin America suffer from the overpopulation crisis. Western nations gradually lose their cultural identities giving way to undemanding enduring and charismatic nations which in their turn continue their invasion in the West by its own permission.

Indeed, the West has been successfully using the phenomenon of globalization for many years pursuing its selfish needs and minimizing negative consequences. Western countries interfere in other countries’ sovereign affairs, conquer foreign markets, control cash flows, attract cheaper labour force, etc. One has to acknowledge that the Western world has accomplished a lot at this point. On the other hand, every action has a reaction. The world, which the West has been ruthlessly transforming for years, has started to transform the West in return.

American and European politicians promote democracy as the ultimate social structure that should reign in the whole world. They should probably enjoy the victory of Hamas at the democratic elections in Palestine . The West thinks that it has a right to observe and control the fulfillment of democracy all over the world and endorse Western standards in other countries’ cultures. In return, the West has to witness global riots caused with a publication of several drawings in a provincial European newspaper. If the US or the EU administration believes that it is entitled to run a military action against a sovereign state, it means that many Americans may fall victims of a terrorist attack at any moment.

The Western standards have made the world look a fright. Social and political technologies may eventually play a malicious joke with the West. Many respectable politicians acknowledge nowadays that massive immigration may destroy the Western civilization in the end. Immigrants continue to conquer the world promoting their own needs and values. They play a serious role in Europe's political life already. It brings up the idea that they will become a powerful election force in both the USA and Europe in 10 or 15 years.

As a rule, immigrants preserve their national identity, which gives them a reason to defend their rights and needs. They express their protests when a European government bans the wearing of hijab headscarves in European schools. They put Paris in chaos burning thousands of cars and smashing windows. They demand respect for their traditions when European newspapers publish the controversial cartoons of Prophet Muhammad. They do not seem to care about the multicultural paradise on the globe which the West propagandizes so violently.

Immigration has become a serious problem for the USA too. Non-white Americans have become much more socially and politically active than they used to be in the past. There are US experts who think that immigrants and their growing families will eventually create one of the most serious problems for the USA ’s internal security in the 21st century.

It gives up the idea that there will not be a notion of the “Western world” in the future. Those nations which turn down their authenticity to the benefit of the myth about the globalized world will inevitably lose their viability under the pressure of alien aggressive cultures. The nations, which created the Western civilization decades ago and defended its standards and values throughout many bloody wars, do not feel at home in their own lands nowadays. They may continue to fight for homosexuals' rights and explore the nature of women’s orgasm, but they may also defend a right for lethal injections.

The Russian government must pay as much attention as possible to all of the above-mentioned problems. The Russian authorities need to develop a thought-out national policy and identify strategic national goals. Russia already suffers from regional separatism, the ongoing war in Chechnya, the growing extremist sentiments, etc.

American and European officials have perfectly exercised the groundbreaking power of propaganda and PR technologies. Their impact has overthrown empires, tyrants and even international associations. The West has managed to turn whole nations inside out without using missiles and bombs. The uncontrollable distribution of Islamic extremism in the world – the number one concern for the globe – and the growing popularity of such sentiments that leads to the establishment of terrorist networks originally spring from well-known Western political technologies. It is an open secret that the USA launchws several of such projects to struggle with the USSR during the Cold War era.

One may only hope that the global protest against the publication of Prophet Muhammad cartoons is just a single occurrence, or a result of a provocation that will never repeat again in the future and will not take the shape of a global anti-Western movement. It is obvious though that the world is changing right before our very eyes. If events like this continue to occur, the West may fall into a snake pit that it has dug out itself.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: china; coldwar2; communism; iran; islamofascism; russia; sovietunion; syria; ussr; venezuela
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To: nopardons

If I must, who here remembers the movie the man who saw tommarow narrorated by Orson Wells. It showed that a person from the area of Persia with help from the Russians will start a nuclear war.
I saw that movie when I was 9 and the more I see how Iran is acting it is scary as hell. I am very worried about this country and the rest of the world. I asked that all Freepers who have not seen this movie see it.
Call me chicken little but after you view it many things really have come into play.


81 posted on 02/14/2006 11:14:50 PM PST by lndrvr1972 (N)
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To: lndrvr1972
OMG...you actually believe that a movie, made from a book written by a FABIAN SOCIALST, both many decades removed, predicted what is going to happen now?

Do you also believe that Nostradamus predicted MODERN future events as well?

Should I be afraid of the Morlocks too? :-)

82 posted on 02/14/2006 11:30:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I know it is crazy but I am very scared of what the Iranians will do. I really believe that Israel is not going to put up with any shit and they unlike us will take care of Iran. I just made a post thats it Morlocks are only an option.


83 posted on 02/14/2006 11:44:22 PM PST by lndrvr1972 (N)
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To: SteveMcKing

Japan does not accept immigrants. They preserve their national culture and identity. So, don't count on moving there.


84 posted on 02/14/2006 11:54:11 PM PST by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: lndrvr1972
You are right to be concerned, but FEARING something, because H.G. Wells wrote something sort of, kind of, maybe, but only in your mind, like something today, doesn't mean that it'll happen.

Do you know ANYTHING at all about H.G. Wells?

Besides being a damned SOCIALIST, he was also an EARLY anti-war nutjob.

Yes, I like his fiction books. Do I take them seriously? HELL NO!

If you watch Sci-Fi films ( and I'm talking about those from 1900-1984 ) not a one of them has contained anything that is remotely the same as our current world situation.

Oh, some few things ( OBJECTS ) are now in use; though not many.

Absolutely NONE of the clothes were EVER worn!

Fiction is NOT fact; nor is it intended to be taken as prophesy. Science Fiction is written FOR that time!

I hope this helps you a bit. :-)

85 posted on 02/14/2006 11:56:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


86 posted on 02/15/2006 12:03:32 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))
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To: presidio9
What wishful thinking on russia's part. They still haven't gotten over loosing Afghanistan methinks!

Look the reason europe is in trouble is because they have been on two tracks concerning their immigration "dilemma" simultaneously and they have both been abhorrently WRONG. Europe has always been - as has been its historic nature - the most racist pompous arrogant class-conscience "old" world society which have NEVER accepted or tried to assimilate its immigrant community - mostly islamic middle eastern or north africans - and at the same time their governments have done everything to appease and ingratiate the corrupt totalitarian islamofacsist middle eastern regimes ONLY for their short term financial benefits - mostly by playing up their anti-American sentiments. This is the state of europe today, but Pravda should thing twice before pretending US and europe is in the same predicament. American culture has never had that tiresome "old" world sentiments. America was made by immigrants - and of course its native American society - but as each immigrant community has joined in this great experiment, the community has not ostracized and separated them - frankly American culture has no concept of separating cultures as is the case in class-conscience old world europe - but they have mostly welcomed, accepted, assimilated, and added their contributions to the great melting pot. That is why as there have been venomous islamist demonstrations all over europe with the mohamad cartoons, and moslem youth demonstrations in France, and native British born islamists bombing subways in London, here in US there hasn't been much commotion about the cartoons - as far as I know - from the moslem community, and 9/11 was accomplished by foreigner islamists.

87 posted on 02/15/2006 12:11:37 AM PST by parisa
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To: Yardstick

I completely agree with you. - per my post 87.


88 posted on 02/15/2006 12:16:23 AM PST by parisa
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To: presidio9
The problem is straightforward. No government in the history of mankind has done anything other than to 1) attempt to stay in power, and 2) acquire more power if, as, and when possible, until such time as the corrosive effects of 2) negate government's efforts at 1). True in all cases, except when a nation has been conquered by an external enemy. If any benefit accrued to the citizenry during a government's reign, so much the better, but noble intent along these lines is not nor ever has been in a government's agenda, merely in its rhetoric.

When the Constitution was in force generally, it provided a bulwark against the more egregious abuses. Now that the judicial class (in broad) takes it as a given that the Constitution may be rewritten at whim from the bench, it's simply a matter of time -- speaking historically -- until the universal historic progression of government repeats itself in this nation.

89 posted on 02/15/2006 12:53:38 AM PST by SAJ
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To: goodnesswins
There are days when I do think I lived through the BEST of America.....and it's all downhill from here on out....BUT, I think we're in the middle of a war right now, and so my outlook is tainted.

Countries rise and decline. England entered into the 20th century as a superpower, and left it as an also ran. By the looks of things the future is in the east.

90 posted on 02/15/2006 5:51:26 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: TheBrotherhood
The problem is that many, and not a few on this very site, view Christianity as part of the problem.

Since mocking islam will provoke violent reaction, the trend will be to mock Christianity.
91 posted on 02/15/2006 5:55:13 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: lndrvr1972; nopardons
The movie was about Nostradamus. The book by H.G. Wells was "A vision of things to come", which predicted a long war between east and west, ending with mutual destruction.

I have seen the movie, and read the book some time ago. Nostradamus wrote a lot of odd and interesting things, and the book was a take off on that. Also of interest, in the late 80's there was a book that was based on Nostradamus that said the US and Russia would ally against a power in the east.

Funny thing with Nostradamus, you can put anything into his predictions you want. The man was a master charlatan.
92 posted on 02/15/2006 6:12:21 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: presidio9

It amazes me how many conervatives post from Communist News Daily PRAVDA. Why don't you take a trip to their about page.


93 posted on 02/15/2006 8:43:22 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

Thanks for your advice. I had no idea Pravda was communist propaganda. When I have been here as long as yourself, maybe I'll have a better handle on what is appropriate for this forum.

BTW, FR is NOT a conservative forum by any stretch of the imagination.


94 posted on 02/15/2006 8:54:56 AM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: nopardons

"Wood is a renewable source. "

However, it takes many years for a tree to mature into a commodity.

And I don't believe there are more trees now than when my ancestors landed in Jamestown.


95 posted on 02/15/2006 9:46:04 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: nopardons

I think you're confusing HG Wells with Orson Welles.


96 posted on 02/15/2006 9:51:16 AM PST by fragrant abuse
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To: parisa
America was made by immigrants - and of course its native American society - but as each immigrant community has joined in this great experiment, the community has not ostracized and separated them - frankly American culture has no concept of separating cultures as is the case in class-conscience old world europe - but they have mostly welcomed, accepted, assimilated, and added their contributions to the great melting pot.

Very nicely said.

97 posted on 02/15/2006 9:51:18 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Smokin' Joe

"As a rule, immigrants preserve their national identity, which gives them a reason to defend their rights and needs."

Except in Australia.

"CANBERRA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false.  If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country."


98 posted on 02/15/2006 9:54:49 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: redgolum
"By the looks of things the future is in the east."

We'll see about that.....I have my doubts.

99 posted on 02/15/2006 10:21:53 AM PST by goodnesswins (Too many idiots....so little time.)
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To: jocon307

Lock and Load Bubba......


100 posted on 02/15/2006 10:23:59 AM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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