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When Harry Met Blue Eyes: Reid and Sinatra
Original FReeper research | 2/15/2006 | Fedora

Posted on 02/15/2006 11:04:31 AM PST by Fedora

When Harry Met Blue Eyes: Reid and Sinatra

Harry Reid’s Mob Money, Part 4

By Fedora

Part 1: Mr. Cleanface’s Dirty Laundry

Part 2: Harry’s Henchman Rory Reid

Part 3: The Aviator’s Droppings: Harry Reid, Steven Barringer, and Howard Hughes’ Legacy

”Harry Reid is a mealy-mouth, and he was in their pocket just like the rest of them. . .he’s a worm. . . all you've got to do is read the poem he read when they had that phony Sinatra licensing. . . Reid was the chairman, and he read this kiss-*ss poem. He's a faker.”

--Former Las Vegas FBI agent Joseph Yablonsky, when asked to comment on Harry Reid’s relationship to the Mafia

In 1981, the Nevada Gaming Commission under Chairman Harry Reid held a licensing investigation which restored gaming privileges Frank Sinatra had lost in 1963 due to his association with Chicago Mafia boss Sam Giancana. According to Reid, as quoted at the time of Sinatra’s death in 1998, “It was one of the most extensive, thorough investigations we ever had. . . We expected to come up with a lot of dirt, but all we found were positive things.”

Frank Sinatra and the Mafia

Someone might wonder where Reid was looking. Allegations about Sinatra’s mob associations had been on the public record since February 1947, when papers reported that Sinatra had travelled with Al Capone’s cousins Charles, Joseph, and Rocco Fischetti to Havana, Cuba, where he had been seen with top Mafia boss Charles “Lucky” Luciano.

That April Sinatra was arrested on charges of assaulting and battering a reporter who had been covering the story of his Havana trip, Hearst columnist Lee Mortimer. The alleged incident occurred at Ciro’s nightclub in Los Angeles (now the site of the Comedy Store). Sinatra initially was quoted as saying he hit Mortimer first over an anti-Italian racial slur. Later his lawyer changed his story to claim that Mortimer had launched an unprovoked physical attack following the alleged slur. Mortimer’s version of the story was that someone sucker-punched him, then some Sinatra associates (from a group which included Jack Mass, William Sexton, Irving Weiss, and Sam Weiss) held him down while Sinatra hit him. Two witnesses backed up Mortimer’s account. Mortimer’s date Kay Kino said she saw Sinatra throw the first punch before someone grabbed Mortimer for Sinatra to hit him again. Photographer Nat Dallinger said he saw Sinatra follow Mortimer out of the bar, and he identified Sam Weiss as one of “three or four guys” holding Mortimer. Weiss and Sinatra’s other companions refused to talk on the advice of counsel. All employees of Ciro’s claimed not to remember anything.

Mortimer wrote an article for the New American Mercury in 1951 drawing an outline of Sinatra’s mob background. The essential accuracy of Mortimer’s article has been confirmed by later biographers and is corroborated by the FBI’s 2,403-page file on Sinatra, released to the public in 1998 after Sinatra’s death.

Sinatra’s mob ties stemmed from his family’s connections. A recent Sinatra biography by Anthony Summers and Robbynn Swann reports that contrary to Sinatra’s own account, christening and marriage records indicate that the Sinatra family originated from Lercara Friddi, Sicily, in the same town and on the same street where Lucky Luciano’s family came from. One of three Lercara Friddi residents listed in Luciano’s address book at the time of his death was a Sinatra relative. FBI files include mention of one informant describing Sinatra as a nephew of Al Capone’s brother Ralph and another informant describing Sinatra as a nephew of Capone’s cousin Joseph Fischetti. Sinatra’s uncle Babe Gavarante (aka “Garavanti” in some sources) had been a driver for an armed robbery gang and was convicted of murder in 1921. Gavarante is suspected of having been connected to the organization of Willie Moretti, a Hasbrouck Heights, New Jersey mobster linked to New York Mafia boss Frank Costello. In the FBI’s files, Sinatra’s first wife Nancy Barbato is described as a cousin of a key member of the Moretti family.

Moretti helped Sinatra get started in his career, as Morettti admitted to FBI agents on February 6, 1948 and as Sinatra admitted in private testimony to the Kefauver Committee on March 1,1951. Sinatra sang at the wedding of Moretti’s daughter, an incident memorialized in the scene with the singing actor Johnny Fontane in The Godfather.

Godfather author Mario Puzo reports that he had several unpleasant encounters with Sinatra over the Fontane character. The references to the character in the “horse’s head” scene in Godfather were evidently a dramatization combining a pair of less colorful alleged incidents involving Sinatra’s dealings with big band star Tommy Dorsey and Columbia Pictures President Harry Cohn.

Mortimer’s 1951 article reported Dorsey told him that when Sinatra wanted to get out of a contract with him, “he was visited by three businesslike men, who told him out of the sides of their mouths to ‘sign or else.’” Other sources have described Dorsey as denying this story. However Dorsey’s daughter Pat Hooker confirms that her father privately told her he received a phone call threatening their family if the Sinatra dispute was not resolved. Dorsey biographer Peter Levinson records that according to Willie Moretti’s friend Dan Lewis, when Lewis asked Moretti about the story, “Moretti smiled and, in a rare departure from omerta, answered, 'Well, Dan, let's just say we took very good care of Sinatra.’”

The Cohn incident was reportedly similar. Harry Cohn had taken financial control of Columbia from his brother Jack in 1932 with the assistance of Al Capone’s Hollywood representative Johnny Rosselli, who secured a loan from bootlegger Abner “Longy” Zwillman. Later Rosselli was convicted of extorting money from Hollywood movie studios. He obtained a pardon from President Truman through the intervention of the Chicago Mafia’s political fixers with Attorney General Tom Clark (father of Ramsey Clark), but Cohn refused to assist his parole efforts by giving him a job with Columbia, saying that Columbia’s investors would complain. Stunned and angered, Rosselli swore revenge. He forced Cohn to give a contract to Marilyn Monroe, according to Cohn. However Cohn expected all his actresses to sleep with him, and when Monroe refused because she was in love with Sinatra, word of her defiance got out and Cohn fired her. Meanwhile Sinatra wanted a role in From Here to Eternity, which Cohn initially refused to give him. Sinatra later claimed he persuaded Cohn to change his mind by agreeing to a lowered salary. Other accounts describe Sinatra getting the role because the actor first under consideration for the part, Eli Wallach, was deemed too muscular-looking in comparison with his opponent in a fight scene, Ernest Borgnine. But according to Rosselli, after Cohn turned Sinatra down, Sinatra called Cohn’s Mafia friend Frank Entratta and asked him to intercede with Cohn, and when Cohn turned Entratta down as well, Entratta went to New York Mafia boss Frank Costello on Sinatra’s behalf, and Costello assigned Rosselli to make Cohn an offer he couldn’t refuse. Cohn reportedly tried to threaten Rosselli back with his own underworld connections, saying, “John, if we have a problem here, I'm going to have to make some phone calls”, to which Rosselli replied, “Harry, if we have a problem here, you're a [expletive deleted] dead man.” Summers and Swann’s Sinatra biography supports Rosselli’s account.

Sinatra repaid the mob’s career assistance by doing favors in return. FBI informants identified Sinatra as a distributor for a Hollywood narcotics ring linked to Bugsy Siegel, Siegel’s Hollywood associate Allen Smiley (aka Aaron Smehoff), and Siegel’s actor friend George Raft. Comedian Jerry Lewis told Summers and Swann that he heard Sinatra volunteered to be a Mafia money courier shortly after the February 1946 deportation of Lucky Luciano, who controlled the Mafia’s international narcotics network. Sinatra sang at a party in Luciano’s honor in Havana, Cuba on Christmas Eve, 1946, and again met Luciano in Havana in February 1947, travelling there with the Fischetti brothers. FBI files describe a photograph of Sinatra following the Fischettis off the plane after landing in Havana, and Mortimer’s article adds the detail that in the photograph Sinatra is lugging a heavy suitcase. Rocco Fischetti delivered $2 million in narcotics profits to Luciano at that time “in the hand luggage of an entertainer”, federal authorities reported. When Italian police searched Luciano in 1949, they found among his possessions a piece of paper with Sinatra’s unlisted phone number and a gold cigarette case with the inscription, “To my dear pal Charlie, from his friend Frank.” Sinatra would later admit meeting Luciano in Havana, but denied the $2 million delivery allegation.

In 1947 an FBI informant reported that Fischetti had bragged about his “financial interest” in Sinatra. Fischetti acted as an agent for Sinatra, requiring all bookings of Sinatra to be cleared with him, and Sinatra in turn performed at establishments where Fischetti had an interest and helped him set up a string of auto dealerships. Allegations about under-the-table payments in jewelry from Fischetti to Sinatra were made during a 1963 IRS investigation of Fischetti’s interests at Miami’s Fontainebleau Hotel, but were not confirmed.

Fischetti’s Chicago associate Sam Giancana developed a close relationship with Sinatra. Giancana was the hidden owner of the World Wide Actors Agency, a talent booking agency which included Sinatra among its clients. In 1959 Sinatra admitted to IRS investigators that he had met Giancana at the Fontainebleau Hotel in March 1958. In June 1958 Customs officers searching Giancana and found Sinatra’s private phone number among his effects. FBI files are full of reports of Sinatra socializing with Giancana and giving performances for him between 1958 and 1963.

One FBI informant described Sinatra as having “cultivated” a relationship with Kennedy in-law Peter Lawford during the 1960 election campaign, when the Fischetti brothers and other underworld elements were working to secure the nomination of John Kennedy as the Democratic candidate, according to the informant, relying on information generated during a trip to Miami. According to a report from the Tampa FBI office, prior to the 1960 election Kennedy’s father Joseph made a deal with the Mafia wherein Lawford, Sinatra, and Dean Martin became front men for Mafia interests at the Cal-Neva Lodge in Lake Tahoe. The allegation that Sinatra was a front man for Giancana’s interests at the Cal-Neva was echoed by FBI informer Jimmy “the Weasel” Fratianno, who was pictured with Sinatra and members of the Gambino family in a 1976 photograph. Frattiano’s allegation was consistent with an FBI wiretap record of Giancana boasting to Rosselli about the Cal-Neva that ''I am going to get my money out of that joint and end up with half of it with no money.”

Sinatra’s relationship with Giancana became an object of increased FBI interest after Sinatra introduced President John Kennedy to Giancana’s girlfriend Judith Campbell, in what was apparently an attempt by Giancana and Rosselli to blackmail Kennedy. Giancana and Sinatra were also intimate with Marilyn Monroe at Cal-Neva the week before she died, according to Giancana’s younger brother and to former Chicago FBI agent Bill Roemer, who was privy to electronic surveillance of Giancana and heard he and Rosselli discussing the incident.

In 1963 Sinatra became involved in a brawl in Giancana’s Cal-Neva bungalow that was witnessed by undercover FBI agents, who informed the Nevada Gaming Commission. Nevada Gaming Commission Chairman Ed Olson then began an investigation with the goal of revoking Sinatra’s gaming license. Despite Sinatra’s attempts to bribe and intimidate investigators and use his influence with President Kennedy to pressure Nevada Governor Grant Sawyer, the evidence against him proved overwhelming. Rather than facing legal scrutiny, he voluntarily relinquished his interests in the Cal-Neva, as well as the Sands (controlled by the New York and Chicago Mafia), and Desert Inn (controlled by Cleveland mobster Moe Dalitz). Sinatra’s attorney during the affair was Harry Claiborne, future law partner of mob lawyer Oscar Goodman, who would himself be investigated by the Justice Department in 1979 for allegedly channeling Mafia bribes to Nevada Gaming Commissioner Harry Reid. As a U.S. District Judge Claiborne would be impeached for bribery and income tax evasion, with Goodman defending him unsuccessfully.

Sinatra attempted to re-enter the Nevada casino business in 1976 by joining his lawyer Milton Rudin in purchasing 5% of the Del E. Webb Real Estate Corporation. However the Nevada Gaming Commission intervened, requiring that Sinatra and Rudin be licensed. Rudin was appointed to the board of Del Webb, but Sinatra avoided another encounter with law-enforcement authorities by withdrawing from Del Webb.

Then in 1977, Harry Reid became Chairman of the Nevada Gaming Commission.

Reid’s Investigation of Sinatra

In 1980 Sinatra forced Caesars Palace to list him as a key employee so he could apply for a new gaming license and get his previous revocation reversed. He reportedly paid $500,000 for an investigation of his past to clear himself. Precisely who he paid this $500,000 to is unclear.

Reid’s commission began a 13-month background investigation of Sinatra in early 1980, as meanwhile the Justice Department was rounding up an investigation into FBI informers’ allegations that Reid was himself a recipient of Mafia bribes. Reid’s investigation of Sinatra was conducted by Richard Bunker, Chairman of the Nevada Gaming Commission’s enforcement arm, the Gaming Control Board. Bunker told the press that the FBI had refused to turn over its files on Sinatra on the grounds that the board was not a legitimate police agency. However Nevada Governor Robert List was quoted as stating that the State of Nevada had obtained Sinatra’s files from the Justice Department, though he added he didn’t believe “the technical questions raised by the FBI will have any significant effect on the Sinatra investigation.” Sinatra himself also obtained his own FBI files under the Freedom of Information Act and gave them to the Gaming Control Board.

Bunker’s background investigation was followed up in early 1981 by testimony from Sinatra and various friendly witnesses, after a December 1980 private meeting where Governor List assured Sinatra and his lawyer Rudin that Sinatra would not be “kicked around or mutilated” and the hearing would not become a “three-ring circus”. During Sinatra’s testimony he lied repeatedly about his relationship with various Mafia figures.

Sinatra claimed that Willie Moretti was just “a neighbor” he knew only vaguely and asserted, “Mr. Moretti had absolutely nothing to do with my career”. This contradicted his own testimony to the Kefauver Committee, as well as Moretti’s own 1948 confession to FBI agents, along with the report of Hackensack, New Jersey Police Captain Matthew Donohue to the FBI’s Newark field office that “Moretti. . .has a financial interest in Frank Sinatra.”

Questioned about his alleged $2 million payoff to Lucky Luciano, Sinatra replied “Show me an attache case that can hold $2 million and you can have the $2 million”. After hearing this, Norman Mailer decided to take Sinatra up on it and demonstrated to columnist William Safire that you can actually fit $2,012,000 in $100 bills into a 12” x 15” x 5” attache case. Safire proposed that he would publish Mailer’s demonstration if he could have half of the $2 million Sinatra owed them.

Sinatra’s answers to questions about his relationship to Sam Giancana at the Cal-Neva were equally inadequate. Sinatra told Reid’s commission that ''I never invited Mr. Giancana to Cal-Neva. . .I never hosted him, and I never saw him at Cal-Neva.” He added that when he learned Giancana was at the Cal-Neva during the 1963 brawl incident, he immediately ordered hotel executives to ask him to leave. This stands in conflict with the fact that undercover FBI agents witnessed the brawl and gave a different account.

Perhaps the most absurd point in the hearing came when Sinatra was questioned about a 1976 photograph of himself standing amidst various members of the Gambino family and Jimmy Fratianno with his arms around his neighbor Tommy Marson and Gregory DePalma, both then under FBI surveillance in relation to a scam at the Gambino-controlled Westchester Premier Theater which involved skimming funds from Sinatra’s performances and paying Sinatra under the table. Asked to account for the photo, Sinatra gave a ludicrous explanation:

Mr. Gambino had arrived with his granddaughter, whose name happened to be Sinatra, a doctor in New York, not related at all, and they’d like to take a picture. I said, ‘Fine.’ They came in and they took a picture of the little girl and before I realized what happened, there were approximately eight or nine men standing around me and several other snapshots were made.

Despite the patent farce of Sinatra’s testimony, Harry Reid claimed he found his defense convincing. The New York Times reported:

The commission chairman, Harry Reid, said that eight days ago he would have voted against Mr. Sinatra, but that after reading the results of the control board's 13-month investigation, ''I have to be very candid and honest in saying that I was totally wrong.''

Reid’s evaluation of Sinatra’s testimony did not seem candid or honest to critical observers. New York Times reporter Robert Lindsey commented,

All the old charges appeared to have been dispensed with. Yet, at least some observers said afterward that they felt there was less to the hearing than met the eye. Mr. Sinatra was treated with a kind of awe. He and his lawyer-manager, Milton Rudin, appeared to know many of the panel's questions in advance. Board investigators seemed to base many of their conclusions solely on the singer's own word; on some points, their fact-finding appeared to have been naively superficial. . . Several times, when asked a potentially embarrassing question, Mr. Sinatra said that his memory failed him; he also gave some puzzling replies. In answering a question about the incident that led to the loss of his gaming license in 1963, he firmly denied knowing that the late Sam Giancana, a Chicago mobster, had visited the Cal Neva Lodge in violation of state laws barring gangsters from casinos. But when asked if he had ever admitted knowing Mr. Giancana was there, he answered, ''I might have said almost anything; if I said it, I don't believe I meant it because I never saw him.''. . . Whatever Mr. Sinatra's relationships might have been with the underworld, no matter whether he had been treated unfairly by the press, as he claims, there appeared to be a desire at the hearing to reinstate him, if for no other reason than that he's good for business.

Lindsey’s colleague William Safire wrote,

At a hearing that gave Mr. Sinatra the forum to flay his detractors, two remarks were made that invite follow-up.

One was the observation by board member Jack Stratton that the reason Mr. Sinatra had lost his gambling license 17 years ago was that the singer had ''lost his cool'' in a telephone conversation with Ed Olsen, the veteran A.P. newsman who was then the gambling commission chairman.

Not disclosed at the 1981 hearing was Mr. Olsen's 1963 memorandum for the commission's file recounting that conversation, which was also monitored by two other Nevada officials. Since it shows a side of Mr. Sinatra not attested to by magazine-publisher friends as diverse as TV Guide's Walter Annenberg and The New Republic's Martin Peretz, a selection from the unpublished document follows:

''I added,'' wrote Chairman Olsen about the phone call from Sinatra, ''that I wasn't satisfied at this time that Sinatra himself had told us the truth. He said what about? I said he denied breaking up the fight involving Giancana, while another witness said otherwise. . .'' (The presence of mobster Sam Giancana as Sinatra's guest at the Cal-Neva Lodge was a reason for rescinding Sinatra's license.)

'''I'm never coming to see you again,' said Sinatra. I told him if I wanted to see him I would send him a subpoena. '''You just try and find me,' he said. 'And if you do, you can look for a big, fat surprise. . .a big, fat, (obscene gerund construed as an adjective) surprise. You remember that. Now listen to me, Ed. . .don't (obscene verb) with me. . .'

''The tone of his voice was menacing and I asked 'Are you threatening me?' He replied, 'No ...just don't (obscene verb) with me And you can tell that to your (obscene gerund) board and your (obscene gerund) commission, too.'

''I suggested it might be better for all concerned if he concentrated on his enterprises elsewhere and departed the Nevada gambling scene. He replied, 'I might just do that. . .and when I do, I'm going to tell the world what a bunch of (obscene gerund) idiots run things in this state.'''

Safire went on to walk through Mailer’s demonstration of how you can indeed fit $2 million into an attache case He further observed that despite Sinatra’s professed difficulties fitting money into a suitcase, he seemed to be able to perform the even more remarkable feat of squeezing a number of publishers, politicians, and gaming control commissioners into his hip pocket.

Safire’s perception that Reid was in Sinatra’s pocket was echoed by the Special Agent in Charge of the Las Vegas FBI office at the time, Joseph Yablonsky, who recounted Reid’s role in scathing terms:

Harry Reid is a mealy-mouth, and he was in their pocket just like the rest of them. Of course, there's certain things I know I can't speak about because of Privacy Act considerations. But he's a worm. . .all you've got to do is read the poem he read when they had that phony Sinatra licensing. . .After this ridiculous hearing, when Sinatra went up for licensing--[in a hearing] which had no adversary witnesses--McNeil-Lehrer played a half-hour of it on their program without even making a comment, it was so obvious. And when it came up to the Gaming Commission, which you know is [the top tier of] a two-tiered system, Reid was the chairman, and he read this kiss-*ss poem. He's a faker.

A Charitable Man

Since Reid’s commission awarded Sinatra gaming rights at Caesars Palace in 1981, Caesars Palace has donated at least $8,000 to Reid. Meanwhile in 1984 Sinatra began to play at the Golden Nugget, whose owner Steve Wynn was identified as a front man for New York’s Genovese Mafia family in a 1983 Scotland Yard Report. Wynn’s MGM Mirage subsequently became Reid’s largest career patron, giving contributions totalling $158,450 between 1989 and 2005. Reid continued praising Sinatra up to the singer’s death in 1998, when the Senator eulogized , “That was part of the lure of Sinatra, that he was a naughty boy. . . But inside was a soft, kind and charitable man.”

One wonders how much of Sinatra’s charity went to Harry Reid.

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1 posted on 02/15/2006 11:04:35 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Wow.


2 posted on 02/15/2006 11:06:15 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Fedora
Is it true this meeting inspired Sinatra's #1 hit, Something Stupid?
3 posted on 02/15/2006 11:06:22 AM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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ROFLMHO! :-)


4 posted on 02/15/2006 11:08:23 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
True, there are some very interesting ways things get done in Nevada.

But, unlike how things are done in 49 other states, in Nevada, they actually get done.

5 posted on 02/15/2006 11:10:37 AM PST by JennysCool (Do not needlessly endanger your lives until I give you the signal. - Ike)
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To: Fedora

-bttt-


6 posted on 02/15/2006 11:26:00 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Fedora

It's a good thing Reid is a Democrat-a Republican couldn't survive with this kind of past.


7 posted on 02/15/2006 11:32:57 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: nickcarraway
That is uncanny-
I just heard that song (As I listen to The Chairman at work) about two minutes before I read your post.
8 posted on 02/15/2006 11:36:11 AM PST by akorahil (Thank You and God bless all Veterans. Truly, the real heroes.)
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To: Fedora

Hary is a good family man...crime family man that is.


9 posted on 02/15/2006 11:39:24 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: JennysCool
Transaction cost under organized crime are lower than government. After all it's not 'organized' government is it? The mob has great incentive to be quick and efficient. The government has just the opposite. You could even say organized crime is pro growth, pro business.
10 posted on 02/15/2006 11:45:39 AM PST by Leisler (Islam Macht Fries!)
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To: Fedora

"That April Sinatra was arrested on charges of assaulting and battering a reporter..."

Damn, always did like his music, now I LIKE HIM EVEN MORE!!


11 posted on 02/15/2006 11:49:04 AM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Fedora

To summarize, harry reid is a mobbed-up, bribe-taking crook. How about a little of that famous "investigative journalism", MSM?


12 posted on 02/15/2006 11:51:11 AM PST by ozzymandus
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ROFL! He's trying to live up to Don Corelone's injunction: "Do you spend time with your family? Good. Because a man that doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."


13 posted on 02/15/2006 12:14:38 PM PST by Fedora
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To: SAMS

ROFL! I have to clean the coffee off my keyboard now. . . :-)


14 posted on 02/15/2006 12:16:50 PM PST by Fedora
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To summarize, harry reid is a mobbed-up, bribe-taking crook.

Good summary!--I would've saved myself a lot of time if I would've just said that :-)

15 posted on 02/15/2006 12:20:42 PM PST by Fedora
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The more I hear about Reid and his mob connections, the more I believe that he was the inspiration for the crooked Nevada senator in "Godfather II". (I wonder if he ever woke up with a bloody, dead, call-girl in his bed?)


16 posted on 02/15/2006 12:26:29 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: ncountylee
"Senator. You can have my answer now if you like. My offer is this. Nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming licence, which I would appreciate if you would put up personally". - Michael Corleone
17 posted on 02/15/2006 12:31:32 PM PST by lunarbicep (There is something about a closet that makes a skeleton terribly restless.)
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To: Polyxene
LOL! That character seems to have been inspired by Senator Pat McCarran, perhaps combined with a hit-and-run incident involving Senator Styles Bridges. But when I watch it, it reminds me more of Reid, too :-)
18 posted on 02/15/2006 12:42:49 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Polyxene
LOL! That character seems to have been inspired by Senator Pat McCarran, perhaps combined with a hit-and-run incident involving Senator Styles Bridges. But when I watch it, it reminds me more of Reid, too :-)
19 posted on 02/15/2006 12:43:31 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Polyxene
LOL! That character seems to have been inspired by Senator Pat McCarran, perhaps combined with a hit-and-run incident involving Senator Styles Bridges. But when I watch it, it reminds me more of Reid, too :-)
20 posted on 02/15/2006 12:43:57 PM PST by Fedora
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Sorry about the triple post; server's acting up on me.


21 posted on 02/15/2006 12:46:32 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
A couple of things:

Hearst columnist Lee Mortimer was a dick, the "Gregory" of his day, always hounding and taunting Sinatra. Thelast straw was when he called Frank a "Daigo". The best story I heard about Sinatra, was after Lee Mortimer death, Sinatra went to his grave to pay his respects, and pissed on it!

As far as Tommy Dorsey, he made Frank sign a lifetime contract with him that he got 50% of EVERYTHING Sinatra would make for life, no matter if he sang with him or not! Frank could have left anytime and paided the bum from his records and movies.Frank must have been desparate to sign a contract in the first place, but if I had mob connections, I would have had Tommys fingers snapped as well to get out of it!

22 posted on 02/15/2006 12:48:50 PM PST by Bommer (Ted Kennedy - Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life!)
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To: Fedora

No problem -- I admire all of the hard work you have done!! Bookmarked for sure!


23 posted on 02/15/2006 12:54:44 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Bommer
Thelast straw was when he called Frank a "Daigo".

Yes, that was Sinatra's version of the story. Nobody else there on his side of the altercation was willing to talk about it in court, so who knows.

24 posted on 02/15/2006 1:02:40 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Well, yeah, but the documentation was great!


25 posted on 02/15/2006 2:21:26 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Fedora
Sinatra’s attorney during the affair was Harry Claiborne, future law partner of mob lawyer Oscar Goodman, who would himself be investigated by the Justice Department in 1979 for allegedly channeling Mafia bribes to Nevada Gaming Commissioner Harry Reid.
26 posted on 02/15/2006 2:30:48 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Fedora

"Saint Harry" sans halo, or is he preparing for a political burial?

27 posted on 02/15/2006 2:52:23 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: All

Couldn't resist.

28 posted on 02/15/2006 3:04:00 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Fedora
Perhaps the most absurd point in the hearing came when Sinatra was questioned about a 1976 photograph of himself standing amidst various members of the Gambino family and Jimmy Fratianno with his arms around his neighbor Tommy Marson and Gregory DePalma.


29 posted on 02/15/2006 3:08:24 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Fedora

Great research, but you should NEVER criticize the Chairman of the Board in such a way! -:)


30 posted on 02/15/2006 3:09:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Liz

That's the pic :-)


31 posted on 02/15/2006 3:19:32 PM PST by Fedora
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To: wagglebee
LOL!

Frank Sinatra and the Mob

The committee members, apparently intimidated by Sinatra, virtually apologized to him before they were through. Representative Charles Rangel, of New York, who was a beneficiary of Sinatra’s fundraising, told him, ''You’re still Chairman of the Board.''

32 posted on 02/15/2006 3:21:48 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Lot of fans forgive Frank's fraternization with the mob saying he had to pal around with them b/c they owned all the clubs where he sang to make a living.


33 posted on 02/15/2006 3:24:34 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Fedora

Sinatra's fabled career---its peaks and valleys--- allegedly served as the basis for the Johnny Fontane character (played by Al Martino) in the 1972 movie, "The Godfather." Fontane's floundering career in the film is put right thanks to "mob" muscle.


34 posted on 02/15/2006 3:40:23 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Fedora

"ROFL! I have to clean the coffee off my keyboard now. . . :-)"

Stretching a piece of Saran wrap over my keyboard before I log on usually helps!


35 posted on 02/15/2006 4:17:57 PM PST by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Liz

It's pretty hard to work in those clubs without brushing shoulders with them, but of course saying hi to them in a nightclub is obviously a different degree of fraternization than running a casino for them, etc.


36 posted on 02/15/2006 5:49:07 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Bumpity.


37 posted on 02/15/2006 5:59:08 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Fedora

Not surprised in the least. I pride myself on my ability to 'read' people, and it's an ability that has served me well.

Reid is a p*ssy......complete wimp. Anyone like him has GOT to be 'owned' to have survived NV politics for so long.


38 posted on 02/15/2006 6:03:37 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Fedora; Mo1; kcvl; Miss Marple; deport; sinkspur; A Citizen Reporter; McGavin999; Peach; MEG33

Oh, I LOVE this story!


39 posted on 02/15/2006 6:05:20 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Fedora

Where have you been and why haven't I been following your posts? LOL

I'm overwhelmed by the research here; thank you.


40 posted on 02/15/2006 6:08:23 PM PST by Peach (Hillary ran over a cop and didn't even stop.)
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To: RightOnline

That sounds right to me. One thing that strikes me is the contrast between his persona and the amount of power he wields, which makes more sense if he's wielding that power on someone else's behalf.


41 posted on 02/15/2006 6:10:30 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

The issue of his gangland connections was discussed in the latest book on FS---written by his long time valet---a very perceptive man.

It seems that Frank's attraction to the mob was not b/c they rubbed people out---but b/c they were skilled businessman, and knew how to make money, especially in Las Vegas and Hollywood.

The valet wrote how people in the entertainment business gravitated to the mob for financing projects b/c they took the financial risks Wall St would not.

That was then. It's a lot different now.


42 posted on 02/15/2006 6:15:52 PM PST by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: Howlin

Thanks, Howlin :-) I found this the most interesting of the four Reid articles to research.


43 posted on 02/15/2006 6:16:34 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Peach

LOL! I've been here, making mischief :-)


44 posted on 02/15/2006 6:18:48 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Liz
I'll have to check out the book you're quoting. But my understanding is that he was also attracted to the violent side of it, which is one reason he looked up to Bugsy Siegel, and is reflected by for instance how he sent people to intimidate Jackie Mason for making jokes about Mia Farrow. Regarding the financing thing, which is an interesting point, I know that was still going on pretty recently with Hollywood producers turning to the mob for film financing in the 1970s-1980s. Here's an interesting quote about that:

An FBI agent told the LA Times in its June, 1982 series on the Perainos that Hollywood doesn't care about dirty money. "If you find that, in general, the people who should be your witnesses are not willing to give you the sweat off their brow, then you realize that you are faced with a situation where there is a community acceptance of a set of standards that might be offensive in some areas, but not here. And we have to look at it that way, just like we look at pornography, based on community standards. Unfortunately, we have a set of standards about how to finance motion pictures in Hollywood that is incredibly lax. In the last ten years or so, we've made six or seven efforts to try to ferret our allegations of organized crime in the movie business. And we got zero support from the industry. They don't view it as a threat. It's good money to them. It's a way of life, condoned, even embraced. Nobody wants to expose it." (LA Times 6/15/82)

45 posted on 02/15/2006 6:31:12 PM PST by Fedora
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Boy, who would have thought that weasel Reid would have all of these fascinating connections? I lead such a boring life.

Fedora, thank you for your research and this excellent post! It seems to me we need to make the Mob Repulicans...then they could lean on Reid!!

All this needs is a connection to the Clintons, and we would have a unified theory of democrats!

46 posted on 02/15/2006 6:31:27 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Fedora

You know, I may be showing my age, but we just don't have good scandalous stars anymore, do we?


47 posted on 02/15/2006 6:33:31 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Miss Marple
All this needs is a connection to the Clintons, and we would have a unified theory of democrats!

I did notice the other day that Sinatra's FBI file mentioned Giancana vacationing in Hot Springs in the 1960s, which got me thinking along those lines.

48 posted on 02/15/2006 6:33:53 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Howlin
LOL! Does any of this make me less of a Sinatra fan (or a Dean Martin fan)? Nope.

These guys may have hung out with the mob, but they weren't weasels. We don't have stars like this today. Sean Penn? George Clooney? Pfui.

49 posted on 02/15/2006 6:35:08 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Fedora
We used to have a guy who posted here who had an animated sign he would post which sais:

"The democratic party is a criminal enterprise."

I have yet to be dissuaded from the truth of that statement.

50 posted on 02/15/2006 6:37:09 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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