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About 50% of Ukrainians nostalgic for Soviet times
RIA Novosti ^ | February 27 ,2006 | Vladimir Suprun

Posted on 02/27/2006 7:44:57 AM PST by Timedrifter

About 50% of Ukrainians nostalgic for Soviet times - poll
27/02/2006 15:16
KIEV, February 27 (RIA Novosti, Vladimir Suprun) - About 50% of Ukrainians want to live back in the Soviet Union, a national pollster said Monday.

According to the survey conducted by the Razumkov center of economic and political research, 20.4% of respondents said they wanted the Soviet Union and the socialist system to be restored, and 28.3% said they wanted this as well, but believed it was impossible under the present conditions.

A total of 51.3% of respondents were against a return to Soviet times.
More than 57% of the Ukrainian respondents said Russian should be made the official or state language in certain regions, whereas 35% were against this.

According to the survey, 42.2% of respondents said relations with Russia were a priority, 12% - with former Soviet republics, 25.4% - with the European Union and only 1.5% - with the United States.

Meanwhile, only 16% said they were in favor of Ukraine's possible accession to NATO, whereas 61.4% said they did not support the idea.

The nationwide poll, based on interviews with 2,009 adults, was conducted prior to the 15th anniversary of the referendum on the preservation of the Soviet Union. The margin of error did not exceed 2%.

On March 17, 1991, more than 70% of Ukrainians voted for preserving the U.S.S.R.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belarus; kgb; premierputin; putin; russia; soviet; sovietunion; stalin; ukraine; ussr
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1 posted on 02/27/2006 7:44:59 AM PST by Timedrifter
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To: Timedrifter

Yes, bring back the good old days when the Soviets murdered everyone.


2 posted on 02/27/2006 7:45:41 AM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: Timedrifter

who paid for that research?


3 posted on 02/27/2006 7:46:48 AM PST by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: Supernatural

By 1991, they weren't murdering nearly enough of them to keep the system going. There are probably few who remember the purges, and no one who rememebers the famine.


4 posted on 02/27/2006 7:47:53 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Timedrifter
I'm curious about the age breakdown on this.

I'm guessing that a lot of this "nostalgia" is among people too young to remember what it was really like.
5 posted on 02/27/2006 7:49:12 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Timedrifter
How about polling the youth ages 18-35?

I'll bet the results would change.

6 posted on 02/27/2006 7:50:34 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: Timedrifter

Easy to say when you have lots of toilet paper...........


7 posted on 02/27/2006 7:52:17 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: Timedrifter
Some peoples have a tradition of oppression and torture.

Even when freedom is handed to them on a silver platter, they prefer the "good old days" of living like dogs.

Just look at Iraq.

8 posted on 02/27/2006 7:52:54 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: soccer_maniac

The National Socialist Democratic People's Party of Amerika. Formerly known as the Democrat Party.


9 posted on 02/27/2006 7:54:06 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is doomed to be socialist. Way too many people with palms pointed up!)
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To: Supernatural
>Yes, bring back the good old days when the Soviets murdered everyone















Flew in from Miami Beach B.O.A.C.
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man I had a dreadful flight
I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
You don't know how lucky you are boy
Back in the U.S.S.R. (Yeah)

Been away so long I hardly knew the place
Gee, it's good to be back home
Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
Honey disconnect the phone
I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
You don't know how lucky you are boy
Back in the U.S.
Back in the U.S.
Back in the U.S.S.R.

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the West behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my mind

Aw come on!
Ho yeah!
Ho yeah!
Ho ho yeah!
Yeah yeah!

Yeah I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
You don't know how lucky you are boys
Back in the U.S.S.R.

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the West behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my mind

Oh, show me around your snow-peaked mountains way down south
Take me to your daddy's farm
Let me hear your balalaika's ringing out
Come and keep your comrade warm
I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
Hey you don't know how lucky you are boys
Back in the U.S.S.R.

Oh let me tell you, honey
Hey, I'm back!
I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
Yes, I'm free!
Yeah, back in the U.S.S.R.

10 posted on 02/27/2006 7:57:40 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Timedrifter
Those who died in the "Death Zone" of the "Berlin Wall" were unavailable for comment.
11 posted on 02/27/2006 8:01:06 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Memogate - Dan Rathers Little Big Horn.)
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To: Supernatural
Maybe they could have people drive around in black cars randomly knocking people's doors in the early morning hours. Long lines could be reintroduced at food and clothing stores, even simulating random outages of bread and meat.
12 posted on 02/27/2006 8:01:08 AM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Timedrifter

The proportion of people voting openly communist is 4 times greater in Ukraine than Russia. About 20% communist in Ukraine -- so the 20% nostalgic doesn't surprise me. The big number of people who say they want it but it isn't possible, bringing total over 50%, that surprises me.

Then again even the USA has a really huge number of people who want free health care and think it is a right... That could turn us far more socialist than we are today, very quickly. Entitlement mentality is a cancer.


13 posted on 02/27/2006 8:05:13 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Supernatural

This happens when intellectuals who are sympathic to communism, fail to write and talk about the reality of the past. People - as in the masses - often go with the emotions of the loudest slogans and most prevalent propaganda. Look at South America...

Our own country is filled with people who sat by cheering on Clinton as he loved up Castro. We have millions who love communism and millions more who don't know any better.
Our intellectuals and many business leaders are sympathic to communism and have failed to document and teach the reality of communism. They have also avoided teaching America's founding ideology.


14 posted on 02/27/2006 8:06:40 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: BenLurkin
" I'm guessing that a lot of this "nostalgia" is among people too young to remember what it was really like."

My family is in the Czech Republic. My experience has been that the people who are most nostalgic for the "good old days" of socialism are the older folks. Those who were old enough to remember the freedom before 1948 were generally happy to have it return. People under the age of ~35 were also usually happy about it, because they were young enough to rebuild their lives, start businesses, travel, etc. The people I found to be most resistant to the changes freedom brought were ~50-65 years old. They saw rising prices, rising rents, and loss stability at an age when they had trouble starting over.

In the Ukraine, the older folks don't have a democratic tradition from before WWII to return to, so I'd expect nostalgia to be commonplace among retirees. There is comfort in predictability, even if pickings are slim and freedoms are few.

15 posted on 02/27/2006 8:09:12 AM PST by Think free or die
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To: Galveston Grl; Mike Darancette; The Old Hoosier; All
Reading "The Gulag Archipelago" shows what the Soviets were all about. The author claims 66 million people were killed by their own government by one method or another from the time of the Bolshevik revolution in 1917 until 1970. Methods of killing included mass starvation.
16 posted on 02/27/2006 8:24:04 AM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: Supernatural

I don't think Solzhenitsin ever gave such a high number -- although if you include the socialism-induced famines, you might get a higher number than that normally accepted.

GULAG is a great read, btw., every conservative should read it.


17 posted on 02/27/2006 8:29:44 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Supernatural

So what
About 50% American's are nostalgic for soviet time
Their name is DEMOCRAT


18 posted on 02/27/2006 8:32:59 AM PST by 1903A3
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To: The Old Hoosier

I don't think it's a great read--I do think it is a great book, however.


19 posted on 02/27/2006 8:34:45 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: Supernatural

Thanks, that is true. I did not mean to imply that nothing has been written as much as nothing has been actually taught on par with what we have taught about Nazi Germany. We need museums for Communism's victims and we need education materials and requirements.


20 posted on 02/27/2006 9:29:32 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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