Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 5 March 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 5 March 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[citizensgratitude]

**It's interesting how odd it seems to read accounts of President Bush that are written by people who don't hate him.**

Thanks anita for this article.

The level of hate still astonishes me everyday. If, perchance I stuble on a network news channel or CNN, the lies and half truths about this President and what is happening around the world make me more than angry.

[MNJohnnie]

Stupidity that polls well is still stupid. We are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. Our leaders are suppose to lead, NOT demagogue. Congress is currently acting like demagogues, not leaders. Voters will remember who lead and who fled. You can doubt it all you want, we will remind you why you were wrong in November.

[WatchingInAmazement]

"Of the containers identified as posing a terrorist risk, 100% are scanned with radiation detection equipment and are examined with X-ray imaging"

So the question we need to answer is how do they determine a continer "posing as a terrorist risk"? Good stuff C, thank you.

Does this mean that you will now go back and correct your statements on SO many threads that "100% of all containers are scanned by xray" and appologize to those posters that YOU called liars?

[CedarDave]

Thanks!

[TigersEye]

Stop wasting my time.

[Purrcival]

Re: The photo of President Bush holding the little girl:

We all know that Bush hates black people. Kanye West says so. /sarc

[TruthNtegrity]

Miller shouldn't have been compelled to testify, jailed, etc.

But Miller went to jail over not being forced to reveal that she and the NYTimes had told an Arab group that the FBI was on the way to their offices, to seize records and arrest them for financial support of known terrorists.

She stayed in jail until she got immunity from having to talk to the Special Prosecutor about any of those details.

[Cboldt]

But Miller went to jail over not being forced to reveal that she and the NYTimes had told an Arab group that the FBI was on the way to their offices, to seize records and arrest them for financial support of known terrorists.

She stayed in jail until she got immunity from having to talk to the Special Prosecutor about any of those details.

There is no evidence of that, and what evidence there is points in the other direction. Compelling Miller's testimony in the Holy Land matter is still being litigated.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1494693/posts?page=16#16
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1494693/posts?page=24#24
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1578133/posts <- Feb 2006 News

[snugs]

Winners - 5th March 2006
Third Place - Anita
Anita's back! #6. NYTimes says that Renana Brooks, a clinical psychologist practicing in Washington who said she had counseled several White House correspondents, said the last few years had given rise to "White House reporter syndrome," in which competitive high achievers feel restricted and controlled and become emotionally isolated from others who are not steeped in the same experience. What goes around - this time came around, very fast. #20. President asked 5 European nations to negotiate with Iran on nuclear issue. They failed miserably. Then, our President single-handedly achieves an historic deal with India. If this were a Clinton, the topic of Sunday talk shows will be this. But then, we have Powerline guys to show what it really means and President is received there. # 25. The co-author of the fake AP Katrina Briefing Story and the fake 60 Minutes II Bush national guard story producer in 2005 is the same - Margaret Ebrahim. #104. Media Nuggets has a bit of Russert & Libby. ###### Drudge raised Bill Sammon's book to #1 at amazon in 3 days. Now book fever is catching up. NYTimes WH correspondent Elisabeth Bumiller is taking 1 year leave to write a biography of Condoleezza Rice. Stating conflict of interest, her husband - diplomatic correspondent Steven Weisman was transferred as economic reporter. #206. This is what happens, even talking a lie repeatedly make you believe it is true, ie., the polls. Every network is paying for their pollsters. But they read every nagative poll conducted by others too. And then they read the averarage of them too, to say Bush is doomed. Problem is, NOT ONE of them are reliable with one exception, Rasmussen. #217. I was angry yesterday when Greg Jarret on Fox accusing the student editor as if he did something wrong (they never question when they attack churches or religion) and then bring the "fake koran-gate Isikoff" (who was reponsible for 20 innocents death) as "expert" to discuss about it. #234. Mathews should know, even the NYTimes admits - He's Battered, but His Agenda Isn't Beaten - as broken clock is correct twice daily, as is this NYTimes article about Bush. #275. It 's always good to be criticized than ignored. Bush is being criticized because he 's all the more powerful than media what the media want to believe. Bush is ignoring the media because he thinks they don't have the power they believe they have. 291. You 're right. He is running for mayor because he has no chance of winning Left.governorship back. Bobby Jindal will be the next Gov. #335. On ABC, Jack Murtha just called General Peter Pace a liar. It puzzles me how dems. can get away with outrageous comments like this. Also, 12, 45, 69, 91, 162 and 252

Second Place - Old Friend
John McCain likes to claim he is a "Straight talker", he could take lessons from our top two posters this week in straight talking. #187. Quagmire has given way to Civil War. The media is just so transparent. #220.CSPIN screens the callers and hs become a danger to our society. They allow total crazies to spout conspiracy theories that do nothing but incite people against America in general and the President in particular. #258. "I have repeated over and over......who will be the first politician to stand up and say that the President of the United States has the right to usurp the power of any governor of any state in an emergency" #301. The Opportunist Party is populated by so called republican pundits. They're great partners to the Donner Party. #348 "Just heard a soundclip of Barney Frank......I simply channel surf and catch the most amazing egregious lies and slander coming from the left. And sometimes from the right. Pathetic, isn't it." #405 Sickening in the extreme. Thanks for that bit of info I was lacking. Didn't realize that Ann Richards was in concurrence with the introduction of tanks to the standoff #406. Any inner city in a blue state would be very dangerous for the uninitiated. #421 Weasley was busy trying to get our troops out of harms way when the Rwanda massacre was evident. #578. You can't really be waiting for even handed from the MSM? #583. Sadly enough there was a freeper the other day insisting that perception is reality...NO NO A THOUSAND TIMES NO. Also #187, 209, 225, 228, 230, 231, 232, 241, 247, 249, 254, 287, 290, 301, 311, 298, 316, 318, 321, 395, 341.

THE WINNER - SAMANTHA
The gap between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place this week was very very very narrow. Well Done Sama! #184 "I am afraid William F Buckley has spent two many years in two many Pubs,". #196. "That cover story on the Gay Magazine is why W. Clark dropped like a rock in the competition for the Presidential Primary sweepstakes." #210. "Judging by some of the stories about how these reporters are having emotional problems, we might change the has been media or Old Media to "under Psychiatric care media". #237 Excellent point, we have recognized over the last few years and particularly in the last 16 months since the 2004 Election the MSM has gone quite "bonkers". #265. "The MSM lies,obfuscates,leaves out important facts,does not do their homework,only speaks to negative influences like the Unions and in general mucks up every story." #282. "The problem with almost all Democrats and some Pubbies is that compared to George W Bush they all wear panties and Bras, or appear to." 309. "Exactly, Russert only has Buckley on his program when he will trash Pubbies and the President specifically, or if he wants to talk about "DRUGS". 327. "I believe that without William F Buckley being Rush Limbaugh's role model (besides his Dad), he would not be the Excellent spokesman for Conservatives that he is today." 330. "That is an excellent post. I like that Mentally Sick Media..". #358 "You are right, the Old MSM has been in this blame Bush mode for so long they cannot help themselves. They are like Alcoholics that just need another drink." Also, 416, 446, 453, 472, 499, 510, 516, 524, 538, 547, 565, 584, 590, 600; 622; 633; 673, 679, and 680.

[MNJohnnie]

Ok, I got so tied up with the Politics this week that I did not get the Top 10 from last Sunday posted very timely. (Primary/Caucus night was Tuesday did anyone even notice due to the Port Deal media storm?)

Was going to switch to posting it on the following Saturday Thread but Rodguy pointed out some people look for that as summary when they miss the thread so we will be going back to posting the top ten on Sundays after the last FNC show (when possible.)

Ok, the top 10 from Sunday March 5th.

10. Carolinamom. #16 Not a peep about THE President's historic trip or his personal courage. WHY, why, oh Lord is John Edwards trying to get elected again news? #24 But watch Russert give exposure to Edwards' latest....vouchers for HOUSING but no school vouchers. Un-B-leave-a-bull. (Wants POR people to get vouchers to move to where there are better schools.)

9.Freedom Neocon. #58 Stephi asked him "nearly 80% of termainls are Foreign owned, would you have them all divest and wouldn't that create economic chaos?" He said "yes, but only after a list of them is gone through and DoD picks the ones that cannot be done" BUT correct me if I'm wrong, but is that EXACTLY what happend since Aug '05? It went through screening and all that.It will be #350 VERY sad if we make a few more MILLION enemies just because some people can't get over their personal issues with "a-rabs" or "Muslims" and would ignore every other aspect of the UAE history, the security checks it has already gone through, or various "pros/cons"... blinded to everythig else, just because of some (sometimes understandable, and hopefully temporary) psychological dysfunction. Also,10, 66, 79, 107, 117, 149, 156, 179, 188, 222, 262, 341

8. Seattle Conservative. Sorry you had to post and run SC! #546 Interesting article that's not too kind to Hill and the Dims. Looks like someone in Dubai knows what we know about the Dims (they want to turn America into France) and GWB: "What are the lessons for the UAE and the whole world from this episode? First off — character matters. George Bush — like or despise him — is a man of principle." Meet the Clintons in and out of the UAE Khaleej Times ^ #456 "LOL! The "Mentally Sick Media"" Perfect!!! BTW - here is one FReeper's idea on how to get back at some of those in the MSM - a different kind of boycott: LIBERAL MEDIA SMACKDOWN - Putting them out of Business NoDNC.com report ^ | March, 4, 2006 | NoDNC.com Staff Report. #329 Good morning everyone! "He said the democrats should just shut up and let the Duncan Hunter's of the world do the talking and they will hurt the republican chances of winning all by themselves. He is spot on with his comments -- these republicans who are speaking out against the President, with some of their rhetoric, are only hurting the republican party, not helping it." Also, 329, 381, 417, 425, 441, 476, 490, 491, 495, 525, 530, 534, 536, 549.

7. Mo1. 351. "Something else is up and pushing this reaction from the Hill and I don't think it has anything to do with national security" You sure nailed it MO1, it was a Democrat Senate "Influence for Hire" kick back and PR Stunt. #122 Pace is very gently blaming the press for the falling support back home. #83 The media/press can't report the truth about what is really going on Because it would make them wrong and Bush right NYTimes says that Renana Brooks, a clinical psychologist practicing in Washington who said she had counseled several White House correspondents, said the last few years had given rise to "White House reporter syndrome," in which competitive high achievers feel restricted and controlled and become emotionally isolated from others who are not steeped in the same experience. Some in the DC Press are seeing a shrink and it's all Bush's fault ??? BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Also, 113, 136, 157, 164, 170, 185, 200, 212, 233, 243, 248, 256, 259, 315, 326, 353, 359

6. Maica. #61. In case you and I are the only two viewers of CSPAN this morning, I will share with you that I was on the open line segment about 8:55, asking why CSPAN did not cover the President's trip to India and Pakistan. The host told me that they would have had to buy a "package" of the coverage from the pool, and the price at $50,000, was considered not to be a wise expenditure of their limited funds #135 @@@@ They obviously did not get along. However, the media made Brown the scapegoat. Why do they not bash Chertoff for choosing to go to Atlanta for a Bird Flu conference on the day after the flood? Because they have chosen their whack-a-mole and it isn't Chertoff - yet. #148. Brownie claims and believes that he did a great job on 4 hurricanes the previous year in Florida. The difference between the states and their governors are the difference between the automobile vs the horse and buggy age. So in Florida, FEMA did what it was tasked to do. The infrastructure of Florida and the executive abilities of Jeb Bush did not interfere with what the FEMA mandate was. Brown was totally unprepared for the obstruction and lack of cooperation he found in Louisiana. He also is not very articulate so he sounds whiny. 207. He would help himself if he had some facts and figures to bring to this new round of TV appearances. How many MREs were delivered to the Superdome - How many rooftop rescues were accomplished by the Coast Guard and other military agencies - How many very ill people were triaged and sent to other hospitals - How many criminals were released from prisons - How fast the pumps were replaced or repaired - How many Navy and Coast Guard vessels were deployed to the Gulf Coast BEFORE the storm, so they would be in position to help after the storm had passed - And especially, every time he is on TV he should say New Orleans suffered two attacks by nature. The hurricane hit at dawn on Monday. It passed. The sun came out. People cheered. The canal walls failed Monday afternoon and Monday night. The flood that inundated the Ninth Ward and St Bernard Parish happened late Monday and Monday night. Also, 75, 77, 99, 155, 158, 176,

5. Gov_Bean_Counter. #317. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590164/posts Dang it. #531 Little Peter is starting to sound a lot like these guys... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590164/posts WAAAAAA!!!! #537. Sorry these guys... http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/12/14/ethics/index.html #612. If they believe in it so, why the hell aren't they willing to fight for it themselves? They write and vote on the legislation. Negotiate this away, negotiate that away. Where is the stinking legislation that reflects the conservative view? also, 558, 563, 567, 599, 616 and 619.

4. Cboldt. Another perpetual top performers, the Sunday Thread's self-proclaimed "Crank" had some great stuff again this week. #198. Not exactly. (On How DHS got Formed) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1520728/posts?page=154#154 But I do agree that government overpromises, and have held for a long time that we could be more secure with less centralized oversight. #251. Nope. Canal walls failed during the storm. National weather Service issued a bulletin at 8:14 AM on Monday re: Industrial Canal; The 17th Street canal was reported broken at 3AM (by National Guard Bureau) and 5AM Monday (by LA State Police. #382 (About the Port Deal Critics) think it's nothing more than the everyday combination of groupthink and "can't ever admit mistake" entrenchment. Irrational, but very common behavior. In the case of pols, they are following the lead of what they hear from constituents, and the initial reaction FROM ALL QUARTERS was strongly biased against the sale. #426. Not exactly - Congress built it, yes, but surprisingly, NOT in reaction to the terrorist attack of 9/11/2001. See post 198 and its associated link. The attack of 9/11 made the construction an easy sell to the public, similar to the easy sell of federalizing airport security. "One must federalize in order to professionalize. # 438. I haven't investigated the prisons matter; but on the NSA matter, I have doubts that the NYT article constitutes a publication that can be prosecuted under the relevant statute. That being said, there are no doubt classified aspects to the NSA terrorist surveillance program, publication of which WOULD be prosecutable. I haven't read Risen's book to see if it contains that sort of detail. My reference to "Libby Rule" is meant to connote the notion (popular at FR) that since Plame wasn't (and probably can't) be proven to be covert under the statutory definition, Libby shouldn't have been questioned, and Miller shouldn't have been compelled to testify, jailed, etc. #604. The DHS and ICE are pretty clear that they target searches, and I figure as much as makes sense, they look back through the chain of custody and experience as they prioritize the days search activity. The more I read, the more I'm convinced that "100% scanned for radiation at entry port" is a goal at this point, not yet a reality. #608 That isn't exactly the inference I drew. I was merely noting that "being checked" and "being screened" are indefinite terms, subject to the reader's interpretation. At any rate, looking to corroborate "100% are scanned for radiation at port of entry," I used the link you provided. It says, in part ... #620 think the bruhaha over the DPW purchase of P&O is blown so far out of proportion as to be a joke. IMO, there is ZERO safety and security ramification as a result of the sale. I'd concede thre may be a marginal difference, likely due to funding or ability to fund technology, that favors the sale. That is, I think DPW will be more able and willing to implement technologial advances than P&O would be. Also 264, 312, 389, 397, 412, 419, 507, 557, 557, 544, 604, 627, 634, 657, 667, 671

[eeevil conservative]

You really should tune into Herman.. the woman he has on right now is TREMENDOUS!

she is from Canada-- talking about the mess they have in health care up there!

THIS IS SCARY!

break right now-- but she will be back after the break...

WOW! WOW! WOW! WOW!

[Txsleuth]

It is about TIME!!!! LOL

Just kidding...I know it has been a busy, busy news week...and it just never let up...

Plus you do work a lot of hours, don't you???

Who is doing it tomorrow, rodguy?

[MNJohnnie]

Nope you prob stuck with me the next couple of weeks.

[chgomac]

Thanks for the ping, Johnnie....I have to help a neighbor tomorrow morning so will catch up with the 3/12 thread in the evening to see if I missed any earth shattering appearances!

[Txsleuth]

HEY....don't you say we are "stuck" with you...we LOVE you guy!!

And, I haven't seen any complaints about the time it took you to post the winners this week...did you get complaints?

[Peach]

Congratulations on good comments, everyone.

I'm listening to the former CIA agent, Bernsten, who wrote the book Jawbreaker. Russert is questioning him for an hour.

He doesn't seem like he's slamming the administration in any way in the 10 minutes I've listened to. He defended Rumsfeld about something and when Russert asks him if Kerry was right that the operation to find OBL was outsourced in 2001 and 2002, the author says it was not outsourced and Kerry is wrong about that.

He also made a complimentary remark about Pete Goss and says he trusts him.

He just said he thinks the president is a good man and wants to win the war and he's strong and that's good because we have to face the Iranians. He wrote the WH to give them the heads up that we could have caught OBL but someone (he doesn't know who) turned down the operation.

He also says a lot of what the president has done has worked.

He's convinced that Mushareff wants to capture OBL, even if it's in Pakistan.

[Peach]

Bernsten: The war in Iraq did not distract us from capturing OBL. Mentions another book written by someone in the military and you could come to that decision, but he doesn't believe that we were distracted from Tora Bora in any way.

Bernsten went back to Afghanistan on behalf of Cofer Black in 2000. Bernsten had been learning Persian. This was pre 9/11 in order to gain intel on AQ. The plan was to identify the location of key AQ leaders.

Russert: AQ blew up stuff in the 90's and so they were on the radar of the CIA pre 9/11?

Bernsten: There was a report in 2000 or 2001 (I couldn't capture it) that OBL was aware that CIA was in the region and the operation was aborted. None of the agents were concerned about the reports and begged Washington to let them stay in the region and DC didn't permit it.

Russert: Ports question about UAE. There's a report that princes from UAE were hunting with OBL and attempt to kill OBL was called off.

Bernsten: Wasn't in charge of that operation but he's heard of it. Lack of recognition of how dangerous OBL was. Names the terrorist attacks in the 90's and how we didn't respond. We were given lots of signals of impending catastrophe and we didn't respond. The Iranians interpret that as weakness now. Iran believes we aren't strong enough to deal with them. We have to demonstrate we mean business.

Russert: Cole. Neither Clinton nor Bush dealt with it.

Bernstein: Stunned me.

Bernstein: Republicans and Democrats have to stand together against Iran. People in the world believe that this president says what he means and means what he says.
Iran needs to see leaders of the Democrat party standing with the president on this.

We have the ability to deal with Iran. 2000 pound bunker busters.

[Peach]

Bernsten: We need Muslim Americans who have distinguished themselves in the WOT to help with translations.

We have 1,000 FBI officers in NYC. We probably don't have that many in the entire Middle East!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Russert: Everything I've read says you are the most valuable CIA agent but that this is the book the CIA doesn't want you to read.

Bernsten: The CIA has lost their minds. A lot of the info they tried to take out of my book, they'd briefed already for Woodward's book Bush's War. Many former directors have written books and I wonder if they'll give Tenet the same treatment they've given me. The paperback edition may be able to be written without the redactions. They took out open source information.

I didn't reveal sources or methods. The director of operation is the most important body in defending us in the WOT. I want people to recognize how important this is and to step up and join us in the CIA. I plan to get involved in politics. As a Republican. In the House. Not the Senate.

BERNSTEN PLANS TO RUN FOR CONGRESS AS A REPUBLICAN!!

[Peach]

Bernsten: We need national unity and we're in the fight for our lives. We have to recognize that a small group of people can cause catastrophic results.

[TruthNtegrity]

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