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Ports fiasco reveals political hypocrisy, public ignorance
MercuryNews.com ^ | Mar. 16, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/16/2006 5:02:26 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

In retrospect, America went collectively insane over the possibility that a company owned by Dubai's government would operate several of our ports.

Rarely has reason been so routed by pure emotion. Dubai is a Westernizing state that long ago left the eighth century and accepts the modern world of globalized commerce and finance. This member of the United Arab Emirates has -- especially after Sept. 11 -- passed on intelligence, hosted our fleet and provided a foothold in the gulf near Iraq and Iran.

For a country that is addicted to imported petroleum, hooked on cheap imported goods and eager for illegal-alien labor, and which has hundreds of military bases abroad, it is a little late to worry about dangerous foreign ganglia.

. . . the Dubai port deal shows how at odds are American perceptions and reality. For the past half-century, we have been living in a complex interconnected world of mutual reliance.

Soon we will import more food than we grow. We already burn more oil than we pump. For years we have bought more than we export, and we borrow far more than we lend. To justify these precarious dependencies, America assures foreign business leaders, investors and lenders that our markets remain open and immune to the distortions of xenophobia and provincialism.

Americans may not like that devil's bargain, but it was made long ago and, for better or worse, we are long past being an agrarian republic.

The resulting singular affluence of the American consumer derives from just these trade-offs in our autonomy -- and the trust we receive from those who loan and sell us things we cannot immediately pay for. So rejecting the Dubai port deal is not only hypocritical, but in the end dumb.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billclinton; bobdole; borders; dpworld; dubai; mexico; openborders; ports; uae; vdh
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To: duvausa
This is perhaps the single most unbelievable episode I've witnessed in politics.

The R party seems to have just cut it's own throat. Just when they had it all. In an attempt to pander to a public fear.

But there's no chance they'll gain D voters. We all know that. And now they've alienated Bush supporters.

Should be an interesting fall.

61 posted on 03/16/2006 8:40:48 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Willie Green
If they want to be our allies, they have to start instituting democratic reforms in their own nations

All our allies have to be vetted by you, now? When did this start?

Spain was a US ally during the Cold War. Fascist dictator Franco didn't institute many democratic reforms.

The Soviet Union was a US ally in WWII. Communist dictator Stalin didn't institute many democratic reforms.

62 posted on 03/16/2006 8:48:24 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Since the UAE is the ONLY deep water port big enough to take our aircraft carriers, we'd ALL better hope the ports deal does not impact that at least.


63 posted on 03/16/2006 8:53:16 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Not just ignorant of current events, this group we are fighting.


64 posted on 03/16/2006 8:55:18 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: conservativecorner
When you have these kind of numbers, it's a stupid idea

Or the result of an uninformed public.

You're obviously against the deal so tell me, should the US Navy cancel it's contracts with a Dubai owned company to service our ships? Should we shut down the UAE owned passenger and cargo terminals at JFK?

65 posted on 03/16/2006 8:59:17 AM PST by jess35
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To: Alberta's Child
And these polls were conducted after the MSM told the public that we were SELLING our PORTS.If they had asked me I would have said the same thing before I knew the FACTS
66 posted on 03/16/2006 9:00:36 AM PST by 1035rep
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
At the risk of repeating my post from the other posting of this article....

Nice piece, but beyond the playing nice with a loyal Arab nation he missed this important nuance.

The president has to walk a narrow line between 1) convincing the Muslim world that this is a War on Terror as opposed to a War on Islam and 2) maintaining national security. On this issue he was really in a Catch-22, since he really couldn't explain this logic publicly for fear of showing his hand to the Muslim world- This ultimately is a War on Islam.

The west cannot afford to fight 1.2 billion Muslims now, so the best hope is to "divide and conquer" ala Julius Caesar vs. the Celts in the 1st century BC and many others since then. To that end, the president is currently going after the more radical elements of Islam (terrorists) with the WOT with the hope of westernizing future generations of Muslims given the time and access to do so. In the mean time he tries to encourage the more moderate Islamic nations (like UAE) and treating them fairly in trade is one way to do that.

This strategy is truly our only hope unless we're prepared to engage in mass genocide. You have undoubtedly noted how easy it is to rally the relatively uneducated Muslim masses into a violent frenzy over the silly cartoon issue and I expect they would do far worse if they knew the west were engaged in a War on Islam. The Muslim culture is not easily assimilated into a western society, so this will be a supremely difficult challenge. If we can't figure out how to do it, we're doomed to death by submission, dhimmitude (as we're seeing indications of in Europe), or a lot of innocent blood on our hands.

Finally, the RATS saw an opportunity to play political chicken with an issue prior to the midterm election and got most pubbies to play along. As this blog points out "Follow the money and you'll find the truth." Click here!

67 posted on 03/16/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by Rockitz (Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: duvausa

Schumer is more of a danger to our nation than a bunch of UAE managed ports.


68 posted on 03/16/2006 9:05:02 AM PST by jess35
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To: clawrence3
Yep.

They have a hard time accepting that a lynch mob is the perfect example of the will of the majority in action.

Polling results of lynch mobs are overwhelmingly in favor of hanging the guy. Those opposed number in the single digits.

69 posted on 03/16/2006 9:09:06 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Rockitz
You may be interested in The Key Strategic Question
70 posted on 03/16/2006 9:14:21 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: conservativecorner
Would a dirty bomb exploded at a gate close the gate or the entire airport? Now insert this scenario into your rosy port scenario.

Your point illustrates perfectly that you don't understand this.

Control of the terminals just means that you control the unloading of stuff at that terminal. You don't control what enters the port in the first place, because its obviously been loaded overseas.

So now this ship with a nuke hidden on board comes steaming into New York Harbor, and detonates. That's your scenario, right?

At that point, does who is unloading the ships even matter? At all?

71 posted on 03/16/2006 9:19:11 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: conservativecorner
"Would we have let anyone control our ports during WW II? If not, then why now when we have a global war on terror?"

I'm a bit torn about this. We're told that Dubai already has a terminal in Miami.

Should we run them out?

Back about 1997, X42 gave a generous terminal deal to the ChiComs on the grounds of the de-commissioned Long Beach Naval Base.

How come no brouhaha over that?

Not that I'm in favor of either, but doncha think that the idiotic democRATs looks a little silly with their inconsistency?

72 posted on 03/16/2006 9:39:46 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
We do not trust the MSM on the majority of their reports, yet conservative bought this one, hook, line and sinker. They were against it simply because the President was for it. They started their propaganda with misinformation, half truths, and blatant lies and far too many bought in.

Hell, many HERE still refer to the issue as "handing the arabs the "port" security, when it was never ports nor security!

73 posted on 03/16/2006 9:45:55 AM PST by SouthTexas (Hillary supported! UAE defeated! Thanks guys.)
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To: nightdriver

No sillier than the idiots posing as republicans. Peter King and Duncan Hunter appealed to the emotions of people who don't have a clue...and I hope it comes back to bite them in the @ss. While they're posturing over security of our ports and the evil DP World "controlling" infrastructure, they've been silent as church mice about the other 80% of port operations owned by foreign companies.


74 posted on 03/16/2006 9:55:51 AM PST by jess35
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To: SouthTexas
There are a whole lot of people who claim to be Republicans and/or conservatives who fell for Schumer's BS and turned on the Commander-in-Chief.

They rationalize their treachery with poll numbers and compalints about the Mexican border.

A candid few will admit to changing their minds once they educated themselves on the subject. The vast majority will remain ignorant and opposed and resentful of anybody pointing out their ignorance.

After four and a half years of successful leadership the president had a right to expect more loyalty than he got.

75 posted on 03/16/2006 10:08:23 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Dominic Harr
Are you an R? Is this now the R party?

I used to be, for most of my adult life.
Now I have to describe myself as an America First! nationalist conservative.
That's because the GOP has morphed into something that no longer represents my interests.
I guess that's why you're changing it's name to the "R" party...
LOL! What a pathetic display of revisionist doublespeak!

76 posted on 03/16/2006 10:09:48 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
All our allies have to be vetted by you, now? When did this start?

July 4th 1776

77 posted on 03/16/2006 10:13:18 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

LOL - so, I'm surious, were Franco and Stalin "acceptable" as allies to you?


78 posted on 03/16/2006 10:18:17 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

No.


79 posted on 03/16/2006 10:21:59 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: clawrence3

surious = seriously curious ; )


80 posted on 03/16/2006 10:22:08 AM PST by clawrence3
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