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Legal observers eye Minutemen
The Washington Times ^ | 3-24-06 | Keyonna Summers

Posted on 03/24/2006 10:56:22 AM PST by JZelle

Maryland's largest immigrant advocacy group is training supporters to keep close watch on the members of an illegal-alien watchdog group as they monitor day laborers. CASA of Maryland and the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland have offered four training sessions for legal observers who would videotape and document interactions between the Maryland Minutemen and day laborers seeking work. About 70 people, many of them law students, have attended the training sessions, organizers say. "Both groups have the constitutional right to public right of ways and to free speech," CASA staff attorney Steve Smitson told about 20 people Wednesday at the Unitarian Universalist Church in Silver Spring. "But one group's rights cannot infringe upon one another, and that's what legal observers are there for." Groups of two or three legal observers per site will photograph and document in notebooks any confrontations, gestures, name-calling or incidents of harassment by the laborers or the Minutemen.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; casa; illegalalien; immigation; md; minutemen; va
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The way things are going, nobody's going to have any rights.
1 posted on 03/24/2006 10:56:24 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Cboldt

THIS is what I was referring to...about how even the laws we have now aren't being utilized...too many groups to fight.


2 posted on 03/24/2006 10:58:04 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: JZelle
Groups of two or three legal observers per site will photograph and document in notebooks any confrontations, gestures, name-calling or incidents of harassment by the laborers or the Minutemen.

I predict this won't last long because these groups are going to be bored to death.

3 posted on 03/24/2006 10:59:10 AM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: JZelle

Hey... the Minutemen have arrived! The fact that the commie lawyers are going to "watch the watchers" is a sure sign that the Minutemen are doing a great job.


4 posted on 03/24/2006 10:59:59 AM PST by stand4somethin
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To: Txsleuth
"But one group's rights cannot infringe upon one another, and that's what legal observers are there for."

Perhaps the Minutemen should consider...embedded "reporters" from the ACLU. Now that would be interesting.
5 posted on 03/24/2006 11:00:38 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: JZelle

Time to reinstate the Sedition Act. Oh, nevermind, we don't enforce the laws we already have. What good's another one?


6 posted on 03/24/2006 11:01:14 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: TXBubba

"I predict this won't last long because these groups are going to be bored to death."

Nah... it is like a treasure hunt for them... they are just hoping and waiting for a Minuteman slip-up.


7 posted on 03/24/2006 11:01:16 AM PST by stand4somethin
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To: stand4somethin
The fact that the commie lawyers are going to "watch the watchers" is a sure sign that the Minutemen are doing a great job.

And it's rather interesting that in response to the perception that the Minutemen are violating civil rights by observing day laborers, the lawyers are saying to observe the Minutemen.

8 posted on 03/24/2006 11:02:09 AM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: JZelle
Has George Bush signed up yet for the CASA/ACLU class?
It's conveniently close to D.C.
9 posted on 03/24/2006 11:02:42 AM PST by dagnabbit (Pray for the defeat of Bush's dishonest amnesty schemes and Mexico-merger plans.)
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To: stand4somethin

Had one of the Minuteman women speak at one of our Freeper meetings. They had these type of "observers" with them during their vigil. She said they were basically uniformed and were rather surprised to find out how nice the Minuteman folks were. It becomes a real drag to these folks when they find out the "vigilantes" aren't the horrible people they have been made out to be.


10 posted on 03/24/2006 11:06:05 AM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: JZelle

Join Veterans for Secure Borders, The Minuteman Project, Latino Americans for Immigration Reform, Mothers Against Illegal Aliens, and other groups protesting amnesty for these criminals, and demanding the government protect our borders.

http://www.areckoning.com/


11 posted on 03/24/2006 11:07:34 AM PST by SUSSA
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But one group's rights cannot infringe upon one another........?

Sorry Stevo....they don't have a right to break the law. Minuteman observation process is nothing more or less than a neighborhood watch program extended to the borders and in this case known havens of criminals.

12 posted on 03/24/2006 11:07:50 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: JZelle

The way things are going its becoming them against us, probably a civil war shortly, they are organizing now and are even teaching their kids who are getting an education for free that they wouldn't have in mexico, to walk out of school in California, holding mexico flags demonstrating. The socialists have been taught well to give us all the finger, ungrateful bunch.


13 posted on 03/24/2006 11:08:57 AM PST by stopem
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To: Txsleuth

"Both groups have the constitutional right"
Illegal aliens have constitutional rights? Huh?


14 posted on 03/24/2006 11:09:14 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: JZelle
Both groups have the constitutional right to public right of ways and to free speech,"

Considering one of the groups is here illegally, I would dispute this particular claim.

15 posted on 03/24/2006 11:10:49 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: stand4somethin
Good morning.
"... they are just hoping and waiting for a Minuteman slip-up."

Even if they don't see any, the friendly MSM knows how to use creative editing to produce the appearance of slip-ups.

Michael Frazier
16 posted on 03/24/2006 11:11:49 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: JZelle
What tax collectors and stamp agents were to colonial new england lawyers are to us today.

Although since a good number of them are indulgent slobs I'm certain they wouldn't look as good in tar & feathers.

17 posted on 03/24/2006 11:13:12 AM PST by skeeter
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To: JZelle
If I were the minutemen I would invite them along to watch. They will either get bored and leave or they will see the truth and convert from the dark side :D
18 posted on 03/24/2006 11:13:31 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TXBubba
She said they were basically uniformed

Did you mean uninformed or uniformed?

Or both?

19 posted on 03/24/2006 11:19:05 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: JZelle
Maryland's largest immigrant advocacy group is training supporters to keep close watch on the members of an illegal-alien watchdog group...

OK, I'm officially confused.

Exactly what does "immigrant advocacy" have to do with illegal-aliens?

This is like having Audubon Society members "keeping close watch" on meter-maids. Total nonsequitor.

"Illegal aliens" are to "immigration" as "home invaders" are to "the hospitality industry."

I guess thry could try to claim that Audubon Society members are "attuned" to "meter-maid issues" because, well, because meter-maids deal with cars, and, um, OK, yeah, I got it -- and birds often crap on cars! See? It's a natural fit! It makes perfect sense!

That is, it makes as much sense as having an "immigrant advocacy group" sticking its nose into illegal alien matters. (What are they going to do? Claim that since illegal aliens come here "from other countries, just like 'immigrants'", there is some kind of logical connection?)

Well, I guess there is. Just like there's a "logical connection" between Audubon members and meter-maids!

I guess a "connection" subject to qualifiers like "tenuous" and "comical" is good enough for government work -- or, for "church" work too, these days. (Scare-quotes because as I understand it, that "church" believes in pretty much everything -- except for God.)

20 posted on 03/24/2006 11:23:43 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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