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Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder (refused to call mom's dyke friend "daddy"!)
Mail & Guardian (South Africa) ^ | 23 March 2006 | South African Press Union

Posted on 03/25/2006 3:22:01 PM PST by GMMAC

Lesbian couple found guilty of boy's murder

Mail & Guardian (South Africa)
23 March, 2006


A four-year-old boy died after he was brutally assaulted when he refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "Daddy", The Star newspaper reported on Thursday.

Jandre's mother, Hanelie Botha (31), and her partner Engeline de Nysschen (33) appeared in the Vereeniging Regional Court on Wednesday and were found guilty of the boy's gruesome murder.

His father, Jan, sat in court holding the hands of his fiancée, Yolanda Deysel, and listened attentively to Magistrate Rita Willemse, who in her judgement, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De ysschen "Daddy", the paper said.

The court had heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he must call her "Daddy".

Both testified that while Jandre was assaulted, his mother failed to intervene or protect him. Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull and brain damage, as well as broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

The court accepted the evidence of Professor Mohammed Dada, a trauma expert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to those of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.

Delivering judgement, Willemse acknowledged there was no substantial evidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who treated Jandre, by saying the boy got his injuries after he had slipped in the bath.

The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.

Convicting the two, Willemse dismissed their version and said there was substantial medical evidence before her about the nature of the injuries suffered by Jandre.

The case was postponed until June 26 for a pre-sentencing report.

.......... more detailed coverage (sorry no link)..........


Boy (4) died at hands of lesbian pair
Horrific injuries showed long-term abuse


The Mercury (South Africa)
23 March 2006

By Baldwin Ndaba


Johannesburg: Four-year-old Jandre refused to call his mother's lesbian lover "daddy" - and paid with his life.

Jandre's biological father, Jan Botha, was in the Vereeniging Regional Court's public gallery yesterday when his former wife, Hanelie Botha, 31, and her partner, Engeline de Nysschen, 33, were found guilty of the gruesome murder of his son.

He sat in court, holding his fiancee Yolanda Deysel's hands and listened attentively to Magistrate Rita Willemse who, in her judgment, accepted evidence that among the reasons that led to Jandre's brutal ordeal was his refusal to call De Nysschen "daddy".

The court heard evidence from Lydia Nkomo and her daughter, Aletta Lesiba, who worked for the couple in their tuckshop, that De Nysschen had viciously assaulted Jandre while demanding that he call her daddy.

Both testified that while Jandre was being assaulted his mother had failed to intervene or protect him.

Evidence showed he had sustained horrific injuries, including a fractured skull, brain damage, broken legs, collarbone, hands and pelvis.

The court accepted the evidence of Prof Mohammed Dada, a trauma expert, who said the boy's injuries were similar to that of a person who had fallen from a double-storey building.

Willemse acknowledged that there was not substantial evidence linking Hanelie to the assaults, but said she was equally guilty of murder for failing in her legal duty to protect her child against abuse and violation.

The court found she had lied to Dr Elna Gibson, one of the medical doctors who had treated Jandre, by saying the boy got his injuries after he had slipped in the bath. The court ruled that she had lied to protect De Nysschen.

The doctors who had examined Jandre dismissed the pair's version that he had slipped in the bath. They said excessive force was required to inflict the kind of fatal injuries sustained by Jandre.

Willemse said: "I accept the evidence of the medical personnel, who are experts in their fields. There were substantial documents placed before me.

"Most of them have medical experience which spans over a period of 15 years. All of them have dismissed the version of the accused and were unanimous that the deceased's injuries were inflicted over a period of time.

"It is unthinkable that the biological mother of the child could not have known about these fatal injuries. The deceased also had broken legs and his mother should have been aware of it."

The magistrate criticised Hanelie for failing to report Jandre's abuse at the hands of her lover to social workers who were monitoring Jandre's progress after she had gained custody of him.

The boy's father became aware of Jandre's abuse only on the day of his death on June 12 2003. De Nysschen contacted him and said Jandre had fallen earlier in the day and had died.

Willemse said Hanelie had failed to tell her ex-husband that their child had been admitted to the Vereeniging Medi-Clinic on June 3.

She criticised Hanelie's fitness to be a mother, saying Hanelie's parents, who disliked Jan Botha after the two had divorced, later approached him and gave him financial help to fight for the custody of his child.

"Even your own parents did not deem it fit for you to have custody of the deceased," Willemse said.

Rebuking her, Willemse said: "Hanelie was not helpless. She was well aware of Engeline's violent outburst. She could have called the child's biological father for help, but she failed to do so. She did nothing to protect her own child."

The magistrate called De Nysschen a liar and a hopeless witness who had contradicted herself in testimony.

De Nysschen said earlier in her plea explanation that she had hit Jandre hard once with her fist but during her testimony, changed her version and admitted to a series of beatings.

She, however, maintained that the child's injuries had been caused by him slipping in the bath. Hanelie and De Nysschen were further convicted for assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm and child neglect for failing to provide or seek treatment for Jandre's limb fractures.

The case was postponed until June 26.


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KEYWORDS: childabuse; gayagenda; gaystapo; homopromogaystapo; homosexual; homosexualagenda
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To: GMMAC

The Lesbians have a severe hatred for themselves because they are lacking a penis, so they strike that hatred out to those that they can get away with it. And in this case it is the child. With unbalanced people it will always be the child, and that is why they are unfit to parent.


21 posted on 03/25/2006 3:52:43 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I see we're talking the wealthy, empowered South Africa. Hedonism seems to be the pet vanity of the (relatively) well-to-do.

1. I don't know how you can tell that these people are wealthy. Neither the pictures nor the article suggest that they are rich.
2. This kind of thing goes on in every social class and is not at all restricted to the rich.

22 posted on 03/25/2006 3:54:22 PM PST by Capriole (The Anti-Feminist)
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To: kenth

Hmmm . . . (Wondering what the correlation between homosexuality and mental disease is?)


23 posted on 03/25/2006 3:56:03 PM PST by okiecon
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To: MonroeDNA
Lesbians have a tendency towards violence

Lot's of folks do but yeah, the volatile ones can be like rabid cats. The only time I was ever attacked on a DV call was for a lesbian couple fight. The "girl" in the cuffs was actually trying to help me by calling of her...whatever you call it

24 posted on 03/25/2006 3:58:01 PM PST by Horatio Gates (Islam is an exercise in fatality.)
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To: GMMAC

No death penalty? That really sucks


25 posted on 03/25/2006 4:00:04 PM PST by Horatio Gates (Islam is an exercise in fatality.)
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To: GMMAC

I'm sure that this story is the lead on ABC's "World News Tonight"...NOT!


26 posted on 03/25/2006 4:02:01 PM PST by VOA
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To: Socratic
Apparently, the lezzies didn't like male children.
< / sar>
27 posted on 03/25/2006 4:04:49 PM PST by Dallas59 (MOHAMMED LIED-PEOPLE DIED)
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To: the invisib1e hand

"I was thinking "I don't think the natives would do that, even if there is the odd "lesbian couple" among them...."

yeah, I was thinking the same thing, this is sh*t white people do, and whatdayaknow? there they are. Criminals.


28 posted on 03/25/2006 4:06:09 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Capriole
1. I don't know how you can tell that these people are wealthy. Neither the pictures nor the article suggest that they are rich.

2. This kind of thing goes on in every social class and is not at all restricted to the rich.

I guess it would require too careful a reading of my post to see that I said nothing about being "rich." The term I used was "relatively well-to-do," and I even italicised the word "relatively" for emphasis. In this case, we're talking relative to the "natives" I referred to, and well-to-do relative to them wouldn't mean "rich."

Do you maintain, though, that "every social class" has lesbianism and lesbians raising children as "parents?"

Perhaps it is so in a relatively well off society. I have a hunch, however, that sexual (and other) deviancy tends to increase in proportion to a society's prosperity. Sort of along the lines of the cliche' "idle hands are the devil's workshop."

29 posted on 03/25/2006 4:07:54 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: Hildy

I really agree with you. I once had lesbian neighbors, who fit the description of angry man haters – hell they seemed to hate me as well and for no apparent reason. They were just angry, bitter, nasty people.

I’ve also known some lesbians and gays, who are very friendly, balanced, happy, secure, responsible, law abiding, kind, open-minded and even a few who are fairly politically conservative.

I’ve also known some angry, bitter, nasty people who are hetero.

Go figure. What about those hetero mothers who murder their own children like Susan Smith and that other woman whose name escapes me right now? Sick is Sick.


30 posted on 03/25/2006 4:16:59 PM PST by Caramelgal (I don't have a tag line.... I am a tag line. So tag, you are it.)
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To: Hildy
If your somewhat cryptic comment had to do with "disposable dads", I'd answer that, outside of the ghetto, this is largely a radical feminist lie and defy you to post a legitimate, well-documented study saying otherwise.

BTW, don't take my comment personally but, I know this issue quite well & have an unfortunately short fuse when it comes to otherwise good conservatives doing the anti-family left's work for them by spreading it's acrimony-promoting-between-the-genders propaganda.
31 posted on 03/25/2006 4:22:44 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: GMMAC

Poor little boy.

Interestingly, if you ever see lesbians on trying-to- conceive/pregnancy boards, they are ALWAYS hoping to have a daughter.

SICKOS.


32 posted on 03/25/2006 4:23:08 PM PST by Reddy
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To: the invisib1e hand
I guess it would require too careful a reading of my post to see that I said nothing about being "rich." The term I used was "relatively well-to-do,"

You used the term "wealthy," which is a synonym for "rich."

Do you maintain, though, that "every social class" has lesbianism and lesbians raising children as "parents?"

Yes. There are lesbian couples who are raising children in every financial bracket, rich, middle-income, and poor. But I agree with you that simpler societies tend not to tolerate such things. They don't have the ACLU in places where subsistence is the principal issue in life.

33 posted on 03/25/2006 4:26:34 PM PST by Capriole (The Anti-Feminist)
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To: montag813

""DADDY" GONNA DIE"

Soon and painfully is my prayer.


34 posted on 03/25/2006 4:27:02 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Caramelgal

How many elderly homos do you know personally?

I know several, and find them to be very bitter, lonely, and sad. That's what helped me to decide for my own self, that nothing good comes from homosexuality. Seeing them in their twight years is just so sad.

Contrarily, a good majority of elderly married couples, although they may have poor health, they do have some serenity and peace about them -- that you don't find in the homosexuals.


35 posted on 03/25/2006 4:30:38 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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To: Capriole
You used the term "wealthy," which is a synonym for "rich."

So I did, and so you get a break for assuming I meant rich. My thoughts, however poorly expressed, were that the poor South Africans that one might be inclined to see in his mind's eye are not normally -- certainly not to me -- associated with such sophisticated debauchery.

The premise is that, where there isn't the luxury to act like de-evolutionary imbecils, people don't have the time to refine their perversions.

I maintain that wealth, like power, has a fierce desire to corrupt.

36 posted on 03/25/2006 4:38:45 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: Capriole

...anyway they both look awfully butch.


37 posted on 03/25/2006 4:39:51 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: Caramelgal

Yes, that's my point...sick is sick. This is an article about a sick person...not really a GAY sick person.


38 posted on 03/25/2006 4:44:02 PM PST by Hildy
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To: GMMAC

If this story wasn't so disgusting and tragic, it would almost read like a joke.


39 posted on 03/25/2006 4:46:51 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: GMMAC

My heart breaks for that poor boy.

God Bless you, you had courage and strength of conviction. What you lacked was not your fault, you lacked loving parents...


40 posted on 03/25/2006 5:12:38 PM PST by Guy in Bumblebee Suit
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