We believe in ET, not ID [Darwin, SETI, & ID in one thread!]

The Guardian (UK) ^ | 18 April 2006 | Seth Shostak

[Junior]

Years ago I read a short story about a guy who discovered that, the further you mail something, the faster it gets there. On a lark, he mails something to a made-up company on a world orbiting Sirius, and receives a catalog for their products the next day -- thus instituting mankind's first contact with an alien race.

[RightWingAtheist]

Did he receive an interocitor?

[Quark2005]

I rest my case.

The debate ended because of complete lack of evidence contradicting evolution, and continual influx of evidence supporting it; not because of their arrogance, much as science no longer debates whether or not the earth orbits the sun. Both theories stand on solid footing.

Like I said, one needs to become literate in a theory before becoming qualified to critique it; people that publicly object to scientific theories on grounds that are already well-covered and debunked are just making themselves look foolish.

[b_sharp]

I hate to break it to you, but the debate among the scientific community over whether or not evolution occurred ended a long time ago."

"I rest my case."

I noticed you didn't respond to the rest of Quark2005's post. It very eloquently points out why science's refusal to accept ID based on established science principles is *not* arrogant. What is arrogant is the suggestion that an hypothesis like ID should be taken seriously despite the lack of research and publication every other scientific hypothesis is required to go through.

Quark2005 is quite correct about the acceptance of evolution and the SToE, there is no controversy about its existence. Any debate within the scientific community is not about the veracity of evolution as a process but about the part individual mechanisms play within that process.

[CobaltBlue]

"Ludicris" is one of those words that reveals more about you than you could ever know.

[YHAOS]

"then I think we should probably ignore it."

In which case we would probably get an offer we couldn't refuse.

[ToryHeartland]

Years ago I read a short story...

I may have to have a go at writing my own version.

Working title: Pyramid Sellers from Mars!

[ToryHeartland]

In which case we would probably get an offer we couldn't refuse.

Like, tonight youse gonna sleep in da constellation Pisces?

[muir_redwoods]

His main point is devastating to the ID-iocy crowd that would compare their pipe dream to Seti. Seti isn't looking for complex signals, the universe is full of complex signals from stars and other radiation sources. Seti research is looking for simple signals from non-stellar sources like planets. Simple signals from planets is the mark of an artifact

[ToryHeartland]

But maybe they have something a little more, um..."tasty"?

What, Glenmorangie 10-light-year-old single malt?

[ToryHeartland]

If it involves tentacles it will be immensely popular in Japan.

...Tentacles!....Mmmmmm! / HomerSimpson mode>

[LibertarianSchmoe]

...Tentacles!....Mmmmmm! / HomerSimpson mode>

Contrary to popular belief, one's virility is NOT increased by eating....

OOOOOH!!!! TeNtacles.......

Nevermind

[furball4paws]

I have never had tentacles better prepared that in Japan. I don't know about the virility thing, but I smiled all night long.

[YHAOS]

"Like, tonight youse gonna sleep in da constellation Pisces?"

Maybe [LOL] or maybe 'give us all your food and women!'

[jennyp]

...Tentacles!....Mmmmmm! / HomerSimpson mode>

Mmmmm, sashimi!

[PatrickHenry]

Lips that touch tentacles will never touch mine.

[curiosity]

Lips that touch tentacles will never touch mine.

You may want to reconsider that rule. Lots of sexy babes eat squid and octopus.

[PatrickHenry]

I'd rather not know.

[Quark2005]

Lips that touch tentacles will never touch mine.

Not a fan of sushi, huh?

[Luis Gonzalez]

I think you should reconsider the sushi thing..