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Michael Medved mentioned this on his radio talk show today, and I did a Google, and found this. Medved said the Duke shrinks diagnosed Coolidge, Grant, and Lincoln as ill. Medved said that the only politician around today he thought was really nuts was Gore. And so it goes.
1 posted on 04/20/2006 10:05:23 PM PDT by Torie
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I think they are stretching a bit with the sleep apnea. That is more of a physical condition mostly due to being overweight. I can understand this in Taft.

I guess it is true what they say - you have to be crazy to want that job! I wonder how many of these presidents became depressed after becoming president. I just finished John Adams. The description of Jefferson is of a frigging nutcase.

53 posted on 04/21/2006 3:51:26 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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This article says far more about the silliness of modern definitions of mental illness than it does about our former presidents.

That said, Freud and William Bullitt wrote quite the fascinating psychoanalysis of Wilson: Thomas Woodrow Wilson which was distinctly unfavorable to Professor Wilson. Since I dislike Wilson intensely, I've always enjoyed it. Erik Ericson also did an interesting psychobiography of Luther: Young Man Luther that was very popular back in the '60s and '70s.

55 posted on 04/21/2006 3:56:20 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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My guess is the percentage of professors of psychiatry who qualify as mentally ill is much higher.


56 posted on 04/21/2006 4:10:53 AM PDT by bkepley
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The extensiveness of Richard Nixon's alcohol abuse was pretty remarkable and alarming, given the authority he had," Swartz said.

Another reason to cast a suspicious eye at this "study". From the accounts of those who knew and observed Nixon privately, he a social drinker not the drunk that his haters like to portray him as.

58 posted on 04/21/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (The mighty oak is just a nut who held it's ground)
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I think this is kind of like asking what percentage of the American population is criminal. The answer is that most all of us are, because our stuped lawmakers have written so many laws that nobody can move without breaking one. Same thing with mental illness, academics will attribute so many types of behavior to it, that no one can move without being accused of mental illness. For instance, I note that shyness is now categorized as "social phobia."

That being said, I have always thought that the desire to be president indicated a certain degree of mental illness in itself. And if you told me that half the population was mentally ill, I wouldn't be surprised. How else to explain all those people who vote for Democrats?


59 posted on 04/21/2006 4:38:17 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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Didn't read this, but let me guess the party of those they said were mentally ill.


60 posted on 04/21/2006 4:52:54 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Everyday brings a new reason to distrust Hillary Clinton.)
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Studies are biased. Forget academia - its all politcal. The agenda is shrouded and hidden. But the results are always the same - dispirited public is driven to believe anything it is told by "experts" and "researchers".


63 posted on 04/21/2006 5:11:24 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Cylons for PEACE.. Vote Hillary/ McCain)
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This article is retarded.

There is no way to clinically evaluate someone dead 150 years agao to detemrine if they had a mental illness...and frankly some of the things they describe as mental illness are just absurd. Sleep Apnia? Shyness? Give me a break.


64 posted on 04/21/2006 5:19:20 AM PDT by Prysson
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>>>>The study noted among its implications that no national calamities seem to have been a result of presidential mental illness. >>>>

I don't think they can say this. Clinton's insatiable need to be liked and admired casued him to sidestep many important issues and decisions during his time in office, laying the ground work for 9/11 and the continually growing mess in the Middle East.

We still don't know what chaotic situation his prediliction for Chinese flattery (not to mention bribery $$$) will appear to our detriment.

I agree this is all prep work to start their future salvos that Bush is mentally ill and may well lead to a drumbeat that he needs to be impeached and sent away for treatment. For his own good, dontcha know... Gulag anyone????

Pinz


67 posted on 04/21/2006 5:37:49 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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I don't think this is correct. Surely, fewer than 49% of Presidents have been Democrats...?


70 posted on 04/21/2006 7:35:48 AM PDT by expatpat
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Together, they diagnosed the commander-in-chiefs from 1776 to 1974. [snip] of the 37 presidents researched,

Since they counted Cleveland twice, does that mean he was diagnosed with schizophrenia? And would that count only once or twice?

72 posted on 04/21/2006 8:08:56 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (If you have a leaking pipe, you shut off the water valve before deciding on amnesty for the puddles.)
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It must be some type of psychological magic to diagnose mental disorders of people based solely on historical records. It sure isn't science.

If such diagnoses were reliable, there aren't enough psychologists in all of Durham to come up with an explanation for the 42nd President.

73 posted on 04/21/2006 8:11:35 AM PDT by flada (Posting in a manner reminiscent of Jen-gis Kahn.)
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When you get right down to it, we're all crazy by some definition. Most of us just keep it to ourselves.

Gotta run, I need to go count the blossoms on my violas. If there's an odd number, I'll have to go to the store and rearrange the shopping carts. Somebody has to do it.


75 posted on 04/21/2006 8:32:25 AM PDT by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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Franklin Pierce

He was an alcoholic, not insane. The doggrel of the time referred to him as The "Hero of a Well Fought Bottle".

Regards, Ivan

76 posted on 04/21/2006 8:33:46 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Does this suggest that you almost have to be crazy to want the job?


77 posted on 04/21/2006 8:40:30 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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It would be a great honor to be adjudged insane by Duke University since the inmates in that asylum, as in others, view themselves as completely normal and the outside world mad.

This morning the President of Duke U. made a few mealymouthed comments on NPR around the lacrosse case. He appears to be suffering from acute attention-deficit disorder, and his trembling voice (deemed de rigueur in academic circles to indicate sensitivity)indicated an incipient breakdown.
79 posted on 04/21/2006 9:14:08 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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But I thought Nixon was a Quaker and didn't drink!!

(I think the study is nuts!!)


80 posted on 04/21/2006 9:20:59 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Howard Taft apparently suffered from sleep apnea.

Very common in overweight men, and President Taft was HUGE!

87 posted on 04/21/2006 1:08:31 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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JFK was a sexual deviant. Somehow they failed to mention that in this article too.


89 posted on 04/21/2006 1:13:03 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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I think you have to be nuts to want that job in the first place.


90 posted on 04/21/2006 1:15:57 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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