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U.S. workers and taxpayers pay heavy price for illegal immigration (Phyllis Schlafly)
Town Hall ^ | 4/24/2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 04/24/2006 4:24:45 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX

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To: stopem

I drove a taxi for years – and visitors to Hampton Roads preferred Yellow Cab (they refused to hire illegals) because the drivers could actually speak and understand English. My late wife worked several years as a landscaper. Customers liked having people who spoke English. Her boss (owned the company) refused to hire illegals.


81 posted on 04/25/2006 3:38:32 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: pigdog
Perhaps it has to do with the fact that illegal entry is a misdemeanor and being in the country illegally is not a criminal offense.

Whatever the case, they are here. You can see them at Walmart, restaurants, and other such places.

82 posted on 04/25/2006 3:39:20 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: R. Scott

Yep - but with the FairTax that benefit to illegal hiring goes away, too.


83 posted on 04/25/2006 3:47:06 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Ben Ficklin
You need to read the law on immigration, Ben. It is in no way a misdemeanor. It is a criminal act punishable at present by fines in some cases and/or deportation but also by criminal penalties (imprisonment) in others.

The law is Title 8, Sec. 1325.

84 posted on 04/25/2006 3:59:42 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Ben Ficklin

BTW, it is viewed even more harshly if you are illegally immigrating into Mexico. Check the links I gave earlier to see how Mexico views such actions against its sovereignty.

Why should Uncle Sugar view the reciprocal differently than Mexico?


85 posted on 04/25/2006 4:03:09 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Arizona
Are they gutless...or daring?

CFR's Plan to Integrate the U.S., Mexico and Canada

Globalization: The Final Demise of National Security

Trent Lott said today that he supports McCain for President in '08.

86 posted on 04/25/2006 4:11:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: HiJinx

I am under Keyword attack. So hurtful.


87 posted on 04/25/2006 4:13:00 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

That's just 'cause they love ya.


88 posted on 04/25/2006 4:20:33 PM PDT by HiJinx (Secure Our Borders ~ Now.)
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To: TigersEye

Gutless ... AND stoopid!!!


89 posted on 04/25/2006 4:25:13 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
As I pointed out on a previous reply, there have been illegals for a long time. There is a long history Mexicans in this country illegally and legally, used as a temporary workforce.

The major fault in the logic that you and others use is that these Mexicans force their way into the country. The reality is that the US lets them in, allows them in, welcomes them in.

And in more recent times, its not just Mexicans, they are from all over the world. There are 50,000 illegal Irish here.

There is a demographic reality that you can ignore if you want to, but it ain't going away.

90 posted on 04/25/2006 4:47:15 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Who's ignoring it ... you're the one who seems to wish to ignore and accept the fact that "illegal is OK".

I don't. Nor do I care what the country of origin might be - nor if they rode here on Air Force One at the invitation of President Carter. They are (how shall one say this???) ILLEGAL!!!.

I do hope that is clear to you. And I don't agree with your claim that "it ain't going away". There are geting to be a great many voters who are now realizing what the overly-liberal policies of selling our country short and giving it away are beginning to cost us. It must stop.

91 posted on 04/25/2006 5:16:38 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
"your the one who seems to wish to ignore and accept the fact that illegal is OK"

Wrong again.

I have described the situation as I first observed it as a child, thru-out my life, and continuing today.

Obviously, you would like to blame me because society disagrees with you.

92 posted on 04/25/2006 5:25:02 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: TigersEye
Are they gutless...or daring?

Okay, maybe they just want to appear to be gutless.

My ancestors came to the eastern shores of America in the early 1600's to help settle this land, and their blood flows through my veins. I still fly the flag every single day (have since 911) but I'm getting pretty discouraged watching our pathetic "leaders" give away all that we've worked for. I don't know what the answer is, but staying informed is a necessity. Thank God for the internet.

93 posted on 04/25/2006 5:27:51 PM PDT by Arizona
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

Perhaps this should fall under anti-competitive dumping laws. Consider that humans are a resource, and Mexico is dumping that resource at below market value to put others out of business. "Preditory dumping" if you will.

This approach could have teeth with the US Trade Commission, as another avenue of defense under the law. Obviously, our elected leaders won't do anything, so perhaps a class action lawsuit against Mexico would. If argued correctly, it could be held up by the World Trade Organization

I think we should try every angle we have. Does anyone see a flaw in my argument? I'd like to streamline it and sent it off to my congress critter and your input would be appreciated.


94 posted on 04/25/2006 5:40:49 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Ben Ficklin

And yet, Ben, you seem quite willing to accept things as you think they now are (and as you think they were previously).

I'm not and I certainly don't "blame" you, but rather the politicians who have not funcioned to clear up the mess and of the illegals themselves who are knowingly commiting a crime. Those are the two areas to blame, I believe.

And, unlike you, I don't think "society" disaagrees with me - but more likely with you. We'll see how it all shakes down (and I'm sure we don't agree on that either). In the meantime, you might go immigrate illegally into Mexico and get a job so you'd have some first hand knowledge about illegal immigration and how our neighbor handles it. You seem to view it as some benign victimless crime.


95 posted on 04/25/2006 6:09:43 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Arizona
I don't know what the answer is, but staying informed is a necessity.

As regards the world that is the answer I would give you. Stay informed. Be aware. Having a good Baygen radio is a good idea too in case something happens to the net.

96 posted on 04/25/2006 6:42:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: pigdog
Its interesting that you keep mentioning my immigrating to Mexico. Of course no one illegally immigrates to Mexico because Mexico offers an excellent arrangement for those that want to live there.

Likewise, if the US had adequate immigration quotas and/or workable guest worker programs, there would be very little need for illegal immigration nor a desire for any one to illegally migrate here.

But we don't, so we do.

And of course, that is the heart of the issue. Whether we will, or whether we won't.

97 posted on 04/25/2006 6:47:47 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; pigdog
"Obviously, you would like to blame me because society disagrees with you."

Ben, would you mind telling us what the word "society" means to you?

Poll after poll after poll, over the past several decades, show that the majority of the U.S. taxpaying citizens want the illegal immigrants out of our country. The U.S. taxpayers are "society" to me.

They don't want illegal aliens renamed, reclassified, relabeled, regularized or normalized, etc.. They want them gone.

Hell, there used to be an anti-illegal immigration plank in the Republican Party Platform before Bush and Rove got in there.

It's a few thousand greedy, power hungry, corrupt, spineless, gutless politicians and businessmen that are thwarting "society's" wishes here in America.

Maybe you're referring to high "society" as in the Kennedys, Clintons, Bushes and McCains?

Pigdog doesn't strike me as one that would care if high "society" disagrees with the majority of Americans on illegal immigration.

For the record, me neither.

98 posted on 04/25/2006 8:35:13 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

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99 posted on 04/25/2006 8:36:03 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: 4Freedom

The polling data that I see posted here says something different.


100 posted on 04/25/2006 8:41:21 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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