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Poll: Dems leap ahead of GOP on illegals
WND ^ | 27 April 2006

Posted on 04/26/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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To: Aussie Dasher

It's really a simple thing to get ahead in the polls. All one must do is argue for both sides of the issue and have 90% of the press on your side and therefore never get questioned about it...that way you make both sides happy, although it's only because they don't know what you stand for.


21 posted on 04/26/2006 7:38:48 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: c-b 1
"Is the GOP set on committing political suicide?"

More like Hara-Kiri, excising the soul.
22 posted on 04/26/2006 7:39:32 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: right neck

Just image the future value of the transfer payments to the recipients of amnesty with the current programs in place. This amount would not even include their enhanced ability to vote themselves more transfer payments in the future.



None of these anti-American pols give a damn about the future. They are not even factoring that in. The impact to Americans, the costs, the borders, the flow of illegals -- all of it -- the core problem in much of this was something the founding fathers never imagined --- THE PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN. If they had, the original Constitution would have contained term limits and other protections and recourse for the real American citizen that Congress is/has made sure we do not have.


23 posted on 04/26/2006 7:40:38 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Aussie Dasher
By emphasizing enforcement of the law

When the hell have Democrats ever done that?

World Nut Daily at its finest.

24 posted on 04/26/2006 7:42:15 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: Aussie Dasher

This "poll" is proof that America has a lot of mental retards running around loose and participating in "polls." I guess that's better than having them pick their noses and wiping it on other people.


25 posted on 04/26/2006 7:45:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop the importation of Mexican poverty to the USA. Build a wall on the border now!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Right, almost as stupid as the Republicans for not getting a common-sense platform on this and actively promoting it.
26 posted on 04/26/2006 7:49:01 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Is the GOP set on committing political suicide?

Set on?

They've already done it.

27 posted on 04/26/2006 7:50:12 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: denydenydeny
When the hell have Democrats ever done that?

Dean made a big speech the other day castigating the Republicans for lack of border enforcement.

The fact that he was being thoroughly disingenuous is just a techicality at this point.

28 posted on 04/26/2006 7:50:53 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: EagleUSA

Sadly, I agree.

I only made that point to highlight Dubya's shortsightedness as he follows the dictates of his own emotions. He is not made of the same stuff as most conservatives. This is the result of his wealthy origins and his intemperate past. The result is compassionate conservatism. Liberalism in disguise.


29 posted on 04/26/2006 7:52:18 PM PDT by right neck
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To: Aussie Dasher

If the democrats win, any talk about border security will go down the drain.


30 posted on 04/26/2006 7:53:42 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Aussie Dasher
Another poll found two-thirds of Americans think it doesn't make sense to debate new immigration laws until we can first control our borders and enforce existing laws.

That is where Congress (and yes our President) is out of sync with the voters. What worries me more than the details of any bill, is that when it comes to enforcement, we will not do any better than we are now. I am not from Missouri, but I am in a "show me" state of mind. The direction we seem to be going, is a cart before the horse direction. And I don't think immigrants, illegal or otherwise, is the end of the greatness of the American experiment. In the long term, I remain optimistic. But the numbers in play are just too large, and a new regime without enforcement will just add fuel to the fire.

If anyone disagrees with the above, have at me.

31 posted on 04/26/2006 7:54:22 PM PDT by Torie
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To: sinkspur

What do you think of my point of view?


32 posted on 04/26/2006 7:55:12 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
If anyone disagrees with the above, have at me.

No disagreement here.

In fact, I'm against any bill because they won't enforce it. They've all earned my cynicism.

33 posted on 04/26/2006 7:57:14 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (the freeper formerly known as dubyaismypresident, Blackwell for governor Ohio '06)
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To: Torie

of course, any real bill would involve putting the sticks before the carrots. A 2 year period of employer/landlord sanctions, increased border security, fence construction, et al. if that is shown to be working, then we can talk about the carrots - guest workers, more green cards, etc.

my own hope - is that nothing happens. we have 2 national elections coming up in the next 2.5 years, let this be an issue that candidates debate on, and let the voters provide some consensus about what direction they want to go.


34 posted on 04/26/2006 8:00:56 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Torie
I don't disagree. But, frankly, the borders haven't been enforced, much, for 20 years. Reagan didn't do it, Bush's dad didn't do it, Clinton didn't do it, Bush 43 hasn't done it.

I hate to see a wall built, but, if that's all that will work, then build it.

35 posted on 04/26/2006 8:02:38 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: oceanview

But the president is ALSO for strong border security.

It's the democrats that are BLOCKING border security.


36 posted on 04/26/2006 8:04:13 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: oceanview
let this be an issue that candidates debate on, and let the voters provide some consensus about what direction they want to go.

Unfortunately, it will probably be a completely stage-managed "debate", unless the voters really start raising hell over this. The two parties are in basic agreement on how to proceed, with only minor matters of detail separating them.

37 posted on 04/26/2006 8:04:13 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: freekitty

The dems have set them up and for some reason known only to them they are allowing the libs to bury them.

Pass strong border control, keep up the raids, deport most of the illegals, get tough with employers, no amnesty and watch the positive reaction of voters.


38 posted on 04/26/2006 8:04:33 PM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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To: inquest

I see a majority of house and senate republicans, who do not want blanket amnesty. how many R votes does the senate bill have?


39 posted on 04/26/2006 8:07:17 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But the president is ALSO for strong border security.

Everyone in Washington claims to be in favor of strong border security. But most of them, Bush included, refuse to go along with the idea of securing the borders first before legalizing illegals. That makes his rhetorical stance on border security pretty much worthless.

40 posted on 04/26/2006 8:07:49 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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