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New Law Allows for Creationism in the Classroom [Mississippi]
WLBT.com ^ | 28 April 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/28/2006 2:07:06 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

School officials can't prohibit teachers and students from discussing how life began under a new state law signed by Gov. Haley Barbour.

As originally drafted, the measure was designed to foster discussions about the theory of "intelligent design" and flaws with Darwin's explanation of how humans evolved. However, the Legislature expanded it to simply say no limits can be imposed on teachers and students in class talking about "the origin of life."

Intelligent design is presented as an alternative to natural explanations for evolution, but at least one court ruled it out of public schools because it's considered religious doctrine. A federal judge in Pennsylvania last year said intelligent design is not science and is essentially religion, which the U.S. Supreme Court says can't be taught in public schools.

The bill, which took effect with Barbour's signature, passed the Legislature in March.

"No local school board, school superintendent or school principal shall prohibit a public school classroom teacher from discussing and answering questions from individual students on the origin of life," the bill reads.

While banning school leaders from muzzling classroom discussions on this subject, the new law isn't as detailed as the initial version. The Senate had voted to prohibit schools from stifling classroom discussions about the "flaws or problems which may exist in Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution and the existence of other theories of evolution, including, but not limited to, the Intelligent Design explanation of the origin of life." The House rejected that language, prompting legislative negotiators to draft the less explicit compromise that's now law.

Local school officials say they've not had a problem and worry the new law is so vague that court challenges may loom.

"That's probably something that's going to be contested. It is very vague," said Lowndes County schools Superintendent Mike Halford of the need for clarification of what can be discussed in the classroom.

"We're starting to see lawsuits pop up from this," said Halford, pointing to other states where disputes have sprung up about what students can be taught about the origin of life. "It's just a problem we don't need," he said.

Columbus High School Principal LaNell Kellum said her school hasn't faced disputes about what evolutionary theories can be discussed in class. "In all my years, we have not had a problem with that. That has not been an issue," Kellum said. "We've not had a problem with that in Columbus."

Noting Darwin's theory of evolution is part of the state's school curriculum, she said teachers use professional ethics and follow the state-written guidelines for teaching their subjects. "Our teachers have been able to use their professional judgment and teach the curriculum without a problem," she said.

Evolution is the biological theory or process of how organisms change with the passage of time with descendants differing from ancestors. Darwin propounded the theory of evolution by natural selection. Intelligent design's proponents say it is a scientific theory that stands on equal footing with, or is superior to, other suppositions about the origin of life.

However, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences has stated that intelligent design "and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life" are unscientific. A federal judge in December ruled that a Pennsylvania public school district's requirement for teaching intelligent design violates the U.S. Constitution's clause separating church and state.

Another part of the bill would provide high school graduates who plan to enter the work force and not go to college with a special curriculum that provides a much-needed option to the college-prep courses that had been required.

The bill is House Bill 214.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: barbour; crevolist; scienceeducation
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To: connectthedots
as the failures of evolution become more well-known.

"Failures of evolution" have nothing to do with this. It's all appeal-to-emotion.

21 posted on 04/28/2006 3:02:15 PM PDT by LibertarianSchmoe ("...yeah, but, that's different!" - mating call of the North American Ten-Toed Hypocrite)
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To: PatrickHenry

Chin up - maybe the ACLU can soak Mississippi for their tax dollars, as was cheered on in PA. Doesn't freedom suck?


22 posted on 04/28/2006 3:03:45 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Dimensio

"yet you have not once provided an explanation of why this is so."


Because some uneducated, scientifically-illiterate guy wrote something different in a Book long ago, that's why!


23 posted on 04/28/2006 3:04:13 PM PDT by Blzbba (Beauty is just a light switch away...)
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To: LibertarianSchmoe
"Failures of evolution" have nothing to do with this. It's all appeal-to-emotion.

That precisely describes the belief in evolution.

24 posted on 04/28/2006 3:05:36 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
That precisely describes the belief in evolution.

Hardly. But I'm open to your argument. Go ahead and show me the evidence that falsifies the theory of evolution.

25 posted on 04/28/2006 3:10:29 PM PDT by LibertarianSchmoe ("...yeah, but, that's different!" - mating call of the North American Ten-Toed Hypocrite)
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To: Dog Gone
Sorry but the word freedom does not include any lines delineating what speech is allowed and what is not. My child was taught that in life they would encounter more people sowing weeds than wheat in their life, including education. If you think we should place restrictions on freedom of speech, I have to assume the bin of your seeder is full of cockleburrs.

Muleteam1

26 posted on 04/28/2006 3:13:16 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: Blzbba

You mean it is in a Book? They why isn't this Book being taught in school? :)


27 posted on 04/28/2006 3:21:33 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: LibertarianSchmoe
Hardly. But I'm open to your argument. Go ahead and show me the evidence that falsifies the theory of evolution.

Here is a bit of an argument I posted a few weeks ago. Not one evolutionist responded:

There is such a huge gap in the intellect and abilities of men and animals, that evolution is incomprehensible on its face. If evolution involves small steps over long periods of time, why are there no other living beings that are even remotely close to humans in intellect or abilities?

This alone is enough for any reasonable person to toss the ToE onto the ash heap of history.

28 posted on 04/28/2006 3:29:51 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Dimensio
"You repeatedly refer to evolution as a "farce", yet you have not once provided an explanation of why this is so."

Not YOU again.

I lost track of how many times I have pointed out how ridiculous evolution is and always will be. Evolution is your religion; not mine.
29 posted on 04/28/2006 3:34:07 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Muleteam1

You're cool with teachers telling your kids anything they want because of freedom of speech.

Communism, gay marriage, burn the flag, hell, you don't care. It's free speech!

The moon is made of cheese. It's free speech!

Who cares about the quality of education, it's all about free speech for teachers! 2+2=5, and every teacher has the right to teach that.


30 posted on 04/28/2006 3:34:24 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: nmh
I lost track of how many times I have pointed out how ridiculous evolution is and always will be.

That would be because you have never "pointed out" such a thing, so the total number of times is zero. You have asserted it on multiple occasions, but you have yet to actually demonstrate that your assertion is true.
31 posted on 04/28/2006 3:39:04 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
"That would be because you have never "pointed out" such a thing, so the total number of times is zero. You have asserted it on multiple occasions, but you have yet to actually demonstrate that your assertion is true."

There you go again ... the "liar routine". Whenever you're cornered instead of the in your face nonsense, you're trying to be more subtle. In any event, live in your dream world. Believe humans descended from pigs.

BTW, is it EVER possible for YOU to stay on topic and discuss the TOPIC OF THE THREAD? Or do you just like circular nonsensical arguments?

Never mind. I'm really not interested in knowing your answer.

YAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
32 posted on 04/28/2006 3:44:29 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Dimensio
It must be kind of scary for you that people are actually thinking and NOT buying into your religion of evolution
33 posted on 04/28/2006 3:46:04 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: PatrickHenry

This one is so passive it might succeed.


34 posted on 04/28/2006 3:49:28 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: nmh
There you go again ... the "liar routine".

I have not called you a liar. I am merely reminding you that you have yet -- that I have observed -- to support your assertion that evolution is a "farce".

In any event, live in your dream world. Believe humans descended from pigs.

You are again mistaken. I have never professed belief that humans descended from pigs. Perhaps if you actually understood the subject of evolution, you would not make such clearly incorrect statements.

BTW, is it EVER possible for YOU to stay on topic and discuss the TOPIC OF THE THREAD? Or do you just like circular nonsensical arguments?

You made an assertion regarding evolution. I merely asked you to support the truth of your assertion. My statement was in direct response to your statement. If the discussion has veered off-topic, then it is a result of your statement, not mine.

Never mind. I'm really not interested in knowing your answer.

I find this difficult to believe, given that you went to the trouble of asking the question.
35 posted on 04/28/2006 3:49:40 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: nmh
It must be kind of scary for you that people are actually thinking and NOT buying into your religion of evolution

Evolution is not a religion. Moreover, I am not "afraid". I do not understand how you have arrived at such a conclusion, as it is clearly not based upon fact.
36 posted on 04/28/2006 3:50:13 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Have the Pastafarians been granted equal time in the classroom?

http://www.venganza.org/


37 posted on 04/28/2006 3:51:32 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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To: PatrickHenry

No limits means no limits. That means the teachers can say anything. Science teachers will not be bound by deference to religion.


38 posted on 04/28/2006 3:53:03 PM PDT by js1138 (somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was, wasn't evolution)
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To: Junior
This one is so passive it might succeed.

Agreed. Not worth raising a fuss over it.

39 posted on 04/28/2006 3:59:13 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PresbyRev

I failed to give any attention to the FSM in my post #16, as it seems to drive some folks quite wild...


40 posted on 04/28/2006 4:11:13 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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